You're getting your panties in an uproar because two women in Germany got raped on New Year's. You're exactly the kind that opposes justice for rape victims in the United States where 500 a day are raped.
You're getting your panties in an uproar because two women in Germany got raped on New Year's. You're exactly the kind that opposes justice for rape victims in the United States where 500 a day are raped.
This site really is the home of the racists. Think about your own numbers. Even if it is true, which I doubt, that North African Muslim immigrants were 23 times more likely to commit rape, how could they, as a tiny minority of the population, account for a THOUSAND-FOLD increase in rape????Use your brain. Obviously, there was no such 1000x increase.
Sweden is finished wrote:
jjjjjj wrote:Trump mo-rons, about 500 rapes already take place every day in this country and we have had about 250,000 killed by guns in this country since 2009.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#United_StatesMuslims are hardly the key issue.
Imbecile. Do you really think that the media and government are publicly reporting all of the cases of Muslims raping Western women? They deliberately avoid talking about it except in cases like this, where it's too big to cover up.
“As Muslim men immigrated to Sweden, they brought with them an Islamic culture sanctioning rape. It is a culture bad enough inherently in the treatment of its own women. Under sharia, Muslim women serve little more purpose beyond catering to their husbands’ sexual demands. A non-submissive wife runs the risk of being raped by her husband.â€
“But under sharia, this rape culture also impacts upon Swedish women as they are “infidels†and, as such, are — according to Allah’s teachings — sanctioned targets for rape by Muslim men. Such an Islamic belief system has born witness to a drastic increase in rapes in Sweden — more than a thousand fold — since first opening its doors to Muslim immigration.
A 1996 Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention report bears this out. It noted that Muslim immigrants from North Africa were 23 times more likely to commit rape than Swedish men. It is no wonder why today Sweden is deemed the rape capital of the Western world.â€
“Interestingly, between 1995-2006, the Swedish government tracked gang rapes, identifying a drastically increasing trend. Unbelievably, after discovering the problem, it then adopted an ostrich-like “head in the sand†approach, terminating any further studies on them . Apparently the government’s fear of being labeled Islamophobic proved greater than its concerns about warning Swedish women about the threat. While no studies on gang rape have been conducted since 2006, one can assume these numbers have continued to rise.â€
I checked out Sweden's statistics on rape. Your #'s are wrong. The 1980s stats indicated much higher rates of rape among immigrants, but not 23x for any of the countries listed, and Romania was among the countries of origin with the highest rates in Sweden. The foreign born stat in recent years was about 5.5x that of native born Swedes. The reporting stats in Sweden are very different from other places--for instance, if a husband was said to have raped his wife once a day for 300 days, that would be reported as 300 rapes. Moreover, their definition of rape is broader than other countries. The upshot is that there is no evidence either that immigrants caused a spike in rape of anywhere near the level you stated or that the rate has increased over the past ten years, when immigrants increased substantially.
jjjjjj wrote:
This site really is the home of the racists.
An apparently also the home of liberal moron apologists for Muslim rapists.
No one is apologizing for any rapists. I am simply puncturing the utter hysterics of the racists here who are magnifying a minuscule problem, not a drop in the bucket of an immense issue of rape and murder, into something on the World historical scale.
jjjjjj wrote:
Roughly 2/3 are suicides, many of which would be prevented by stricter gun control, because use of guns as a suicide method is nearly foolproof (90% success rate), whereas other methods tend to have a very low success rate and very frequently, contra popular belief, people who fail in suicide attempts eventually die of other causes (that is, they do not ever successfully commit suicide). And if you have a gun in the household, you have something like a 9-10x greater chance of dying from a gun.
doot doot wrote:How many of those are suicides?
Seriously?
If someone actually wants to succeed at suicide (rather than some dramatic cry for help; i.e. pill overdose) they're gonna do it. Who are you to dictate how they do so? Paternalism much?
What's happening is on the World historical scale. It's Europe crumbling again. You can wave your paper with "Peace in our time" while you deny the facts about rape and violence from Muslim immigrants (the facts that Sweden stopped publishing years ago). Meanwhile the resistance among a few brave men in Europe increases. It will be a spectacular civil war between failed liberal societies and a failed religious community. Let them have at each other.
1500 times more rapes in Sweden compared to 40 years ago:
To be honest, I don't feel sorry for liberal Swedes.
Vitamix wrote:
jjjjjj wrote:This site really is the home of the racists.
An apparently also the home of liberal moron apologists for Muslim rapists.
The jjjjjjerk has made racist statements on this board.
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Did you not read what I said? This isn't about paternalism, although paternalism is entirely justified with children and teenagers. People succeed in killing themselves only at very low rates with pills and the like.
Nonsense.
doot doot wrote:
jjjjjj wrote:Roughly 2/3 are suicides, many of which would be prevented by stricter gun control, because use of guns as a suicide method is nearly foolproof (90% success rate), whereas other methods tend to have a very low success rate and very frequently, contra popular belief, people who fail in suicide attempts eventually die of other causes (that is, they do not ever successfully commit suicide). And if you have a gun in the household, you have something like a 9-10x greater chance of dying from a gun.
Seriously?
If someone actually wants to succeed at suicide (rather than some dramatic cry for help; i.e. pill overdose) they're gonna do it. Who are you to dictate how they do so? Paternalism much?
Ummm...reading comprehension problems?
Those muslim rapefugees are at it again. Deport these scum, you German PC pussies.
It's interesting to read all of the comments under that article and see the number of "thumbs up" versus "thumbs down" for them.
Looks like jjjj is definitely amongst a very small minority in his views, yet the political and media elite continue to pursue their agenda of bringing in as many third world Muslim immigrants as possible, to push down wages. The conspiracy theorists will claim that the elites are purposefully bringing chaos to their countries so that there can be a huge clampdown on all civil liberties and we can all go back to living like serfs. I'm not sure that I'm ready to accept that theory yet, but people like Merkel and Hillary Clinton certainly make you wonder.
This is no longer a liberal versus conservative debate. Any liberal with a shred of common sense has joined in the fight against bringing in more of these immigrants. All that is left is a small minority of shrill progressives who will try and shame anyone from saying what they really think in person by crying racism.
we're the majority wrote:
Any liberal with a shred of common sense has joined in the fight against bringing in more of these immigrants.
Well, as the vast majority of liberals hasn't joined in that fight, we can surely agree that common sense is not very widespread in that group.
Look: no one with any sense would recommend introducing 1 million refugees into a country the size of Germany all at once with vastly disparate cultural backgrounds and zero transition. Such a program will necessarily bring some problems.
you're dreaming wrote:
we're the majority wrote:Any liberal with a shred of common sense has joined in the fight against bringing in more of these immigrants.
Well, as the vast majority of liberals hasn't joined in that fight, we can surely agree that common sense is not very widespread in that group.
Go and take a look at the "thumbs up" versus "thumbs down" counts in the comments section of the article. Some of the posts there would be called racist, even on Letsrun, yet have over 100 likes and 0 dislikes.
Yes, I realize that conservatives are more likely to click on and read that article than liberals, but... even so. I am an ex-liberal myself and the whole refugee mess has cemented my move to the right. I have talked to many people in person who are not hard-line conservatives, but do not support bringing in the refugees.
It's the media that's painting a different picture. Most of the large media corporations are extremely pro-immigration. They are largely owned by rich individuals and/or corporations and they want to bring as much cheap labor into the country as possible. If violence erupts, they'll be safe in their gated communities, with their hired body-guards.
Tellin' like it is wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/german-town-bars-asylum-seekers-pool-harassment-complaints-154439822.htmlThose muslim rapefugees are at it again. Deport these scum, you German PC pussies.
Why are liberals hellbent on making life more difficult? At every step they are doing something to make living in the West more difficult.
Yeah basically America indirectly created ISIS when they went in the middle east in search of WMDs. You guys destabilized the system and its America's fault. Bush and Republicans! If you think guns is the answer you guys are idiots.
thoros wrote:
Yeah basically America indirectly created ISIS when they went in the middle east in search of WMDs. You guys destabilized the system and its America's fault. Bush and Republicans! If you think guns is the answer you guys are idiots.
Wonderful.
Don't let Muslims into Europe in large, desperate, high-male ratio numbers.
thoros wrote:
Yeah basically America indirectly created ISIS when they went in the middle east in search of WMDs. You guys destabilized the system and its America's fault. Bush and Republicans! If you think guns is the answer you guys are idiots.
It's America's fault that Europeans don't protect their borders and offer loads of social assistance to migrants who cross the border without invitation?
It seems to me that the "refugees" avoided some European countries while making a bee-line for others. Gee, I wonder why?