there are plenty of mile markers in East Africa, much of which was colonized by the British, like Canada. People in East Africa understand the mile.
there are plenty of mile markers in East Africa, much of which was colonized by the British, like Canada. People in East Africa understand the mile.
Young white women drain me wrote:
Sheila Reid is a narcissistic POD. Her utterance of the phrase "old white dudes" now proves her to be a self-loathing racist. Last time I looked she is white herself. She even refers to herself as a "God" in the tweet announcing her Rio "A standard" time. It is good she has the A standard, she can watch the final in person from the stands.
Hey Sheila, I'm a white dude in my mid 50s, who regularly dates and beds young white chicks in their 20s and 30s, all of them way more attractive and intelligent than you. Just spent two years living with a hot 25 year old, at her place. And I don't have any wealth to speak of, at all. Really funny, when I'm out with my GFs people think I'm a sugar daddy - little do they know the GFs buy me dinner as often as I pay for theirs.
The best way to deal with attention seeking narcissists is to ignore them. Don't feed the narcissist.
OK.
and by the way women collegians who break 4:30 in the mile get a lot more respect and understanding in the United States than those running sub 4:10 in the 1500m. We are talking about the NCAA in the U.S., right? (And yes, I understand that the U.S. was colonized by the British, but the question here was about other countries and their familiarity with the mile).
messi wrote:
ClonedDuck wrote:Anyone else see the twitter blowup sheila reid is having right now?
https://twitter.com/shewolfruns/status/677950230440992768What a PC nut. Get over it.
I agree with Sheila - running the mile at NCAA's does nothing for women.
So are they going to run the half mile as well at NCAA's?
You can't have one event in empirical distance and all the others metric....quite unseemly.
Imperial
krispy kremlin_._._ wrote:
Add this to the already long list of liberals desperately seeking out "problems" to solve.
All the while, destroying the culture they live yet vigorously defending "culture".
There is no problem here. The 1500m race is of zero interest to 99.9% of people whereas people understand the mile. Keeping the 1500m race just confuses an already fractured, marginal audience.
America is not exceptional. Get over it kk.
You have to have run 4:27 or faster in the mile to post on this thread. That'll cut on 90% of the volume.
Bring Back the Mile not a sexist plot. But it is an indication that the physical structure of our races and the benchmarks that we find interesting are designed around the perceived capabilities of male bodies. So the emphasis on the mile is not a male conspiracy, but it does reveal that our world is very gendered, often to the detriment of women athletes.
Or perhaps a better way of putting it is that male athletes have more much to gain from the publicity of a mile event than a female athlete. Case in point: When was the last time Letsrun posted a headline about a woman breaking 4:30 or 4:25 in the mile?
I agree that the mile is a more relatable distance for an American audience. But, disagreement does not make the tweet absurd, and especially not because you perceive it as some sort of PC infringement on the status quo.
Just asked my wife (former NCAA DI Steepler) if she cared about the Mile vs. 1500.
She said "why, that's stupid, I never cared about a 4-min mile." Her PR was 4:46 for the Mile.
Sam in Oakland wrote:
I agree that the mile is a more relatable distance for an American audience. But, disagreement does not make the tweet absurd, and especially not because you perceive it as some sort of PC infringement on the status quo.
Rojo didn't say it was absurd merely because he disagreed with her opinion. He said it was absurd because it was absurd to inject an anti-woman "male nostalgia", "old white men" angle when that had nothing to do with it.
It wasn't coincidence that a relatively recent female college grad said those things. This is the product of third wave feminism. People are rightly pointing that out.
messi wrote:
I agree with Sheila - running the mile at NCAA's does nothing for women.
So are they going to run the half mile as well at NCAA's?
You can't have one event in empirical distance and all the others metric....quite unseemly.
Except the federations, IAAF and USATF, recognize the Mile (imperial) as an official record distance...
Isn't the Milrose Mile the only open race of note that she has won?
http://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/2076735-sheila-reid-goes-distance-to-win-millrose-mile/
BTW: I don't agree that the NCAA should run the mile outdoor. However, from now on I will cheer for everybody except for. Reid. Her comment is completely sexist... I can't believe that she won't be called out for that. I hope that she never makes it on any Canadian team (ever). I would hate for someone like that to represent her country.
trollism pointed it out earlier, but as other posters have also said, it wasn't wrong of her to point out that there is indeed some "male nostalgia" to this. I believe the old, white men thing was brought up because of the debate on twitter.
reader of the forums 2.0 wrote:
Sam in Oakland wrote:I agree that the mile is a more relatable distance for an American audience. But, disagreement does not make the tweet absurd, and especially not because you perceive it as some sort of PC infringement on the status quo.
Rojo didn't say it was absurd merely because he disagreed with her opinion. He said it was absurd because it was absurd to inject an anti-woman "male nostalgia", "old white men" angle when that had nothing to do with it.
It wasn't coincidence that a relatively recent female college grad said those things. This is the product of third wave feminism. People are rightly pointing that out.
This^^^
Here's her tweet in full:
While the mile might be significant for men (sub-4) there is no such significance for women. This isn't marketability it's male nostalgia.
12:35 PM - 18 Dec 2015
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Nothing wrong with the first sentence; I do agree with it. The second sentence is what I would take issue with. If in fact the mile is significant for men (as she obliquely concedes) then there is a marketability angle. Whether the mile would make T&F more marketable is debatable, but is nonetheless a valid point of view in some quarters. And why drag in the male angle at all. If her contention is that the 1500 is more relevant for women, she can just say so without having to disparage the male of the species.
There's also no requirement that men's events should be identical to women's events in every respect. I believe (could be wrong) the barriers and jumps in the SC are different by gender. The hurdles in the high hurdle event for men are higher than for women (maybe even distance too? I'm not sure, and too lazy to look it up). The 400m Hurdles height might be different too. In the field events, pretty sure the discus, hammer, javelins etc weigh less for the women. Are those differences a male conspiracy too?
Perhaps if male nostalgia for the mile is not the way to fill stadiums we should instead have women race in tiny shorts and bras. That would show those white old men!!!
Who is her sponsor?
THE 4 minute mile is NOT special unless you are a high schooler.
It was run in 1954 at that time the marathon WR was 2:18:04.
Would it be exceptional if a High School kid ran 2:18 in the marathon? YES
Would it be a big deal if a Pro ran 2:18? NO
The same should be true of a 4 minute mile in 2015.
Sheila is saying that breaking 2:00 for a woman is more significant than for a man breaking 4:00, because only 4 women have broken 2:00 in the ncaa. Several women have run between 1:53-55, and the long distance runner Dibaba ran 1:57 to close a 1500m race. Breaking 2:00 for a woman is like a guy running sub 1:47 high.
She just needs to realise that there is no depth in female running, that's why I thought it was so stupid when someone was comparing Galen to Jenny at the Bowerman awards. The male version og Jenny is a guy like Kyle Merber, a solid runner, but he's not at the same level as Rupp, at least not at the moment.
I hope Sheila apoligeses and puts up the following humble tweet: I'm thankful for having good health and being able to compete at the highest level in my sport, because if we had the same depth as on the men's side, I would be a mid packer in D3.
You are over valuing yourself. Check Mercier Scoring tables to see how competitive you are. These are great because it is done by a computer. No male or female bias.