Matthew Maton and Tanner Anderson impress in collegiate debuts

39 people broke 24 and the average time of the 9th place team, Washington State, was 24:00.

Was the course short or just really fast?

Probably a very fast course, but so is Stanford and Grant Fisher's 23:33 debut got a good reception. Looks like all three are in a good place at the start of their college career. I'm interested to see how Dressel runs at the Rocky Mountain Shootout.

Informer of good stuff wrote:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/2015-washington-invite-xc-results-oregon-ducks-claim-team-titles-edward-cheserek-and-aisling-cuffe-win-individual-titles/

Maton 8th 23:27. Anderson 12th 23:33. Very impressive.

That's a pretty good time for Maton given his age. Orygun is an a great position. In a few short years, Maton and Cheese will spearhead their dominance in the masters division!

Not a Clown College Fan wrote:

Informer of good stuff wrote:http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/10/2015-washington-invite-xc-results-oregon-ducks-claim-team-titles-edward-cheserek-and-aisling-cuffe-win-individual-titles/

Maton 8th 23:27. Anderson 12th 23:33. Very impressive.

That's a pretty good time for Maton given his age. Orygun is an a great position. In a few short years, Maton and Cheese will spearhead their dominance in the masters division!

Give it a rest. He's 19, the same age as a college freshman. Even if he's 6 months older than a normal freshman, it's no different than a freshman who took a gap year. This clown college nonsense is incredibly old. If Maton were 17, 19, or 26, he'd still destroy you in any race 1500 up. Even if you wanted to call him a redshirt freshman, he still ran sub-4 in his redshirt year, which McGorty couldn't do his redshirt year.

Nowhere near Oregob wrote:

Not a Clown College Fan wrote:

That's a pretty good time for Maton given his age. Orygun is an a great position. In a few short years, Maton and Cheese will spearhead their dominance in the masters division!

Give it a rest. He's 19, the same age as a college freshmanr.

No he isn't. he will be 20 soon. That's normal age for a college JUNIOR.

Please to meet you wrote:

Nowhere near Oregob wrote:

Give it a rest. He's 19, the same age as a college freshmanr.

No he isn't. he will be 20 soon. That's normal age for a college JUNIOR.

This ^^^

Matthew Maton is 6 months older than me and I'm a college Sophomore

Carter lookin wrote:

Please to meet you wrote:

No he isn't. he will be 20 soon. That's normal age for a college JUNIOR.

This ^^^

Matthew Maton is 6 months older than me and I'm a college Sophomore

Sick bro. You're so awesome. He's 6 months older than me and I'm a college freshman. He's 6 months younger than a friend, who's also a college freshman. People in college are generally aged 18-23. Just because you're a phenom runner doesn't mean you need to be young for your class. Notice he's not redshirting this season anyway, so he may well finish his eligibility at age 22.

Hey, it's not his fault that he is stupid and had to be held back several years; it's glandular.

Has Eugene Clown Kollege ever had a normal aged freshman? Grampa Ches, Many Moons Maton, Elfie Rupp, Surrender Artist Pepiot. All eligible to collect social security in a few years.

CollinsCollege wrote:

Notice he's not redshirting this season anyway, so he may well finish his eligibility at age 22.

That must be some of that good old oregon clown kollege mathematics at work. How does a 20 year old freshman finish his eligibility at 22? Assuming he has to drop out after 5 years like Einstein Rupp, he'll be 25 at least before the eligibility runs out.

Please to meet you wrote:

Nowhere near Oregob wrote:

Give it a rest. He's 19, the same age as a college freshmanr.

No he isn't. he will be 20 soon. That's normal age for a college JUNIOR.

Umm, no.

He will be 20 next March. Not "soon".

Most college Juniors turn 21 during that school year, not 20. That would be college sophomores that turn 20.

Carter lookin wrote:

Please to meet you wrote:

No he isn't. he will be 20 soon. That's normal age for a college JUNIOR.

This ^^^

Matthew Maton is 6 months older than me and I'm a college Sophomore

And you're also not the same age as most college sophomores, you're younger than most of them.

Not a Clown College Fan wrote:

That's a pretty good time for Maton given his age.

Maton is the same age as Rupp was when he was a freshman.

How can there be such debates here year after year after year? How hard is this?

Chart for Mo-rons:

Typical Age for High School and College classes:

9th grade: 14-15 (start out school year at 14 and turn 15 in the winter, spring or summer)

10th grade: 15-16

11th grade: 16-17

12th grade: 17-18

College:

Frosh: 18-19

Soph: 19-20

Junior: 20-21

Senior: 21-22

Redshirts will be a year older usually. In age, Maton is equivalent to a sophomore or redshirt frosh. When he graduates, he'll likely be equivalent to a redshirt senior in age, but younger than a Mormon graduating after a mission.

This early performance looks the part of someone very much physically ready for college xc, e.g. a redshirt frosh. Very solid but hard to say exactly what it means with so many people bunched in under 24.

LR should make a sticky on the front page with a chart like this. Hopefully, that gets rid of morons like Please to meet you who clearly have no familiarity with the kindergarten starting requirements in the vast majority of the 50 states.

For those who have no knowledge about this whatsoever, nearly all states require that a student is 5 years old BEFORE a certain cutoff date, which typically ranges from August 1st - November 1st, depending on the state.

When the kindergarten starting age is extrapolated to high school and college years, the results are the ages described in the post above. The guy below me should probably know that the majority of college juniors will be 21 during the NCAA track season. If someone manages to finish their junior year while still 20, they are likely in the youngest 20-25% of their class.

Seyta wrote:

jjjjj wrote:

College:

Frosh: 18-19

Soph: 19-20

Junior: 20-21

Senior: 21-22

LR should make a sticky on the front page with a chart like this.

Very few college students manage to graduate when they are 21-22. It takes 5, or more, years to complete a degree. But, runners feel that seniors should always be 21-22 even if they are coursewise only at a junior level.

If you think about it why would colleges want students to take 5 or more years, instead of 4, to graduate? More tuition paid. It's all about the money.

lol at the Oregon haters the Ducks won what 3 National Championships in track last year and will win 4 this coming year in indoor and outdoor track haters will hate and Oregon will regulate. I see a sweep of both indoors and outdoors track for Oregon this year. Sure the Oregon ladies lost Prandini pro one year early :( but the Ducks added well a ton of awesome recruits http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=210350363

I'm not so sure I'd like to be 19 again and have the pressure he has on him. Oregon and the country expect a lot from him. Ches is probably bi#ch slapping him in every workout. Guess he could do what BYU is doing. They got a bunch of freshman...just listed. These guys graduated as top runners in 2012. Now after 2.5 years they come back and are listed as Frosh. Oh but Matt is 19&4.5 months. Maton is in the thick of things, right now, and he knows it. Ain't gonna be no mercy..and he knows it.

Refer to the charts listed earlier- BYU guys who served missions will be 2 years older when they graduate (25 if they redshirt)... likely 3 years older as freshman though because coming off a mission you are fat and need to redshirt that first season.