last 8 could easily have been 1:48.8-1:49.2 for Farah as he was not leading at the point the clock stopped
last 8 could easily have been 1:48.8-1:49.2 for Farah as he was not leading at the point the clock stopped
Just scary how fast they ran those last 2 laps, but seriously, how can you run a 2:20 final km and not be at all out of breath!? It would be great if people didn't just say doping either. If oxygen isn't a limiting factor for these guys then what is?
You see elite races with very fit athletes who collapse after a race, what separates these guys?
Incredible
How? wrote:
Just scary how fast they ran those last 2 laps, but seriously, how can you run a 2:20 final km and not be at all out of breath!? It would be great if people didn't just say doping either. If oxygen isn't a limiting factor for these guys then what is?
You see elite races with very fit athletes who collapse after a race, what separates these guys?
Well basically it wasn't a hard race for them. Think of it like you running your easy pace for a 4k and then all out for 1k. (I would even say Mo wasn't all out for most of that k but just to give some perspective) and after your 5k of 4k easy 1k all out you won worlds and hundreds of thousands of dollars (maybe millions for the mo empire) you probably wouldn't feel very tired. You would be elated!
Also, Mo has run 3:28. He could run 2:15 all out for a k. So 2:19 at the end is not too bad for him.
hgdvsjaK wrote:
Ndiku tried to go from slightly farther out this year and Farah bided his time on his shoulder. what a smoking last 800. i had 1:50
Get s better watch. Last two laps 56.2, 52.6 ... 1:48.8 800.
Ndiku almost exactly same.
Pathetic 13:50. Last 1600 in 3:56, first 3400 in 9:54. (Slower than 14:30 pace; most readers here could keep up.)
Idiot field including idiot Kenyans serving up such a slow opening for Farah. They deserved the loss as much as he deserved the win.
Rad Wiggins wrote:
last 8 could easily have been 1:48.8-1:49.2 for Farah as he was not leading at the point the clock stopped
I timed the last 800 leader to leader on my watch in 1:48.8. So farah was a little faster. (I've added the 800 to the thread title)
2:19 is what Cheserek closed in to win the NCAA indoor mile. So you could like Chese up on the line fresh and have him sit out the first 8.5 laps and Farah would take him down.
Why wouldn't they close this fast? Nothing to be surprised about.
3600m wamup and closing in 1:48.xx with a flying start (add a sec or so).
Ndiku tried to go from slightly farther out this year and Farah bided his time on his shoulder. what a smoking last 800. i had 1:50
Mo is hilarious. Going out into lane 8 for water, that last K, everything about this race was entertaining to me, winning time be damned. Anyone else just kind of forgetting about the drug swirl and enjoying the ride at this point?
themanontherun wrote:
Anyone else just kind of forgetting about the drug swirl and enjoying the ride at this point?
Of course. The sport is no dirtier now than it has been in the past - in fact, it is almost certainly significantly cleaner, although still very dirty.
The silly kids who keep posting things about being "done" with the sport are the ridiculous ones. No one who has any sense of history or significant knowledge of the sport is joining those ranks - we know that doping is rampant but it has been for over half a century. It has done nothing to diminish the enjoyment I have for this sport.
If you run track you know they teach you not to show pain after a race until you are off the track
How? wrote:
Just scary how fast they ran those last 2 laps, but seriously, how can you run a 2:20 final km and not be at all out of breath!? It would be great if people didn't just say doping either. If oxygen isn't a limiting factor for these guys then what is?
You see elite races with very fit athletes who collapse after a race, what separates these guys?
I guarantee you that Farah would be puffing his lungs out. If someone interviewed him a second after he finished then we would actually hear it. Some people just don't look all that tired after races and some do, it doesn't mean that they're feeling any different. When I finish races (HARD races, not like this one was for Farah) I don't look very tired and don't look like I'm breathing heavily, but I am. I've tried to explain this a couple of times without sounding super arrogant but it's hard.
rupp-androsaged scapula wrote:
Pathetic 13:50. Last 1600 in 3:56, first 3400 in 9:54. (Slower than 14:30 pace; most readers here could keep up.)
Idiot field including idiot Kenyans serving up such a slow opening for Farah. They deserved the loss as much as he deserved the win.
Maybe there should be a rule that states that if the winning time is slower than the pre-champ qualifying time that each and everyone of them had to do - then the race is declaired null and void and no medals awarded.
You don't see victory results lower than the qualifier in any other events any longer, but in the 5000 it happens almost every time.
Kiprop needs to start running 5ks if it's going to be @ 15:00 pace for half the race
Hopeful Runner wrote:
Kiprop needs to start running 5ks if it's going to be @ 15:00 pace for half the race
That would be awesome to watch! He looks like he is jogging at 60 second laps he could probably walk 70+! Haha
This wasn't a 5k, it was a 1500m with a warmup, and admittedly a very interesting one. If kiprop ran the 5k, mo would just speed the pace up to 13:10, and asbel, being an 800/1500 guy, wouldn't be able to hang and would have his kick neutralised. Mo probably could have even medalled in the 800m final. The only guy who can take down mo in the 5k is kemboi. He runs twice the distance so a move up to 5k would be easier for him. His kick is just insane, plus he's nearing the end of his career so a move up would make sense, unlike kiprop.
I miss the days of John Ngugi ('88 Olympics) throwing in a 4:02 1600m after 3 laps and daring anyone to go with him. Anyone can run hard at the end of the race when they know they get to stop soon. Running hard knowing you still have 6 laps left is another matter entirely.
If I wanted to watch a 2 lap race, I'd watch the 800m.
That may have been pedestrian by their standards but most readers here could not keep up with 14:30 pace.
Mo was trained for precisely this. If he wasn't that tired after, it was because he did something like this in a workout with more to come, just before Beijing.
The final 1600m here was 3:55-56, the last 1k 2:19, the last 400m around 52.
"Mos last major session involved running a mile at altitude in 3min 55sec, and then running intervals of 1,200m, 1,000m, 800m, 600m and 400m, a workout I devised for him and emailed to British Athletics, he said. His final 400m was run in 51 seconds."
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6710135#ixzz3kE77zdx6
How? wrote:
Just scary how fast they ran those last 2 laps, but seriously, how can you run a 2:20 final km and not be at all out of breath!? It would be great if people didn't just say doping either. If oxygen isn't a limiting factor for these guys then what is?
You see elite races with very fit athletes who collapse after a race, what separates these guys?
Adrenaline. He just won the world championships so he was obviously so pumped up and excited that the exhaustion didn't immediately catch up. Any runner has been there, especially when you've won a big race or crushed some PRs.