So far, Team USA has sh-t the bed. Why?

With increased scrutiny and better doping controls, this may be the cleanest WC ever. The two countries that traditionally dope the most, Russia and the US, are doing horrendously because they can not dope. A country that is poorer is less likely to dope both because it is harder to afford and the risk/reward is not worth it because even if an African wins a gold, he is unlikely to be rewarded with a huge endorsement deal. Canova is right; Kenya is finally competing on an even playing field and the doping countries have been exposed.

Phil Fondacaro wrote:

Canova is right; Kenya is finally competing on an even playing field and the doping countries have been exposed.

Like the 2 Kenyans already caught doping at the meet?

Only because the United States always used to dominate the sprints. relays, hurdles, and always nail at least a medal in every field event.

Medals from the 800 up to marathon have always been rare for the United States after 1980.

Phil Fondacaro wrote:

With increased scrutiny and better doping controls, this may be the cleanest WC ever. The two countries that traditionally dope the most, Russia and the US, are doing horrendously because they can not dope. A country that is poorer is less likely to dope both because it is harder to afford and the risk/reward is not worth it because even if an African wins a gold, he is unlikely to be rewarded with a huge endorsement deal. Canova is right; Kenya is finally competing on an even playing field and the doping countries have been exposed.

loooooooooooooooool

Add defending Champ Brittney Resse to the list, 12 in her flight in the Long Jump

reader of the forums wrote:

[quote]Phil Fondacaro wrote:

With increased scrutiny and better doping controls, this may be the cleanest WC ever. The two countries that traditionally dope the most, Russia and the US, are doing horrendously because they can not dope. A country that is poorer is less likely to dope both because it is harder to afford and the risk/reward is not worth it because even if an African wins a gold, he is unlikely to be rewarded with a huge endorsement deal. Canova is right; Kenya is finally competing on an even playing field and the doping countries have been exposed.

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Levern Spencer and Jeanelle Scheper

USA?...

Phil Fondacaro wrote:

With increased scrutiny and better doping controls, this may be the cleanest WC ever. The two countries that traditionally dope the most, Russia and the US, are doing horrendously because they can not dope. A country that is poorer is less likely to dope both because it is harder to afford and the risk/reward is not worth it because even if an African wins a gold, he is unlikely to be rewarded with a huge endorsement deal. Canova is right; Kenya is finally competing on an even playing field and the doping countries have been exposed.

This, more or less.

Time for the US to look at the qualifying process?

Three fastest 400m times this year for McCorory, and she can't compete in that event? Richards-Ross that fourth fastest 400m in 2015.

IAAF allow Diamond League winners or defending World Champions to make up the fourth member of a team in an event. Maybe the rule should be extending to world leads too anyway.

Either way, the sport needs the best athletes in each event to be at its World Championship.

Imagine Andy Vernon's twitter feed if he had the three best times of 2015 and still wasn't selected.

douglas burke wrote:

4 days left, The USA will still have the MOST MEDALS and the MOST GOLDS when the meet is over Sunday.

Only if they win everything from here on out.

The U.S. has moved up to 2nd on the medal table after day 6, but still only has 3 golds (tied with Jamaica and GB) and 12. There's no way the U.S. makes it to 30.

Kenya still has its secret weapon, the mysterious hurdlers. With them they could pull off an upset win in the 4x400.

El Keniano wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

4 days left, The USA will still have the MOST MEDALS and the MOST GOLDS when the meet is over Sunday.

Only if they win everything from here on out.

We already have the overall medal lead 12-11

We are favored for gold in the womens 100 (could sweep) hurdles and long jump (possible 2 medals), In the mens Decathlon we have Ashton and Hardee maybe gold and silver, we could get gold and 2 medals in the 110 hurdles tough competitors though, all 4 relays should medal and the USA women could use Felix and Sanya Richards-Ross (they brought her even though she ran her worst race at the trials) Kenya has a likely medal possible gold in the womens 800, in the 1500 Kenya has Kiprop and Kiplagat so could go gold and silver, the women's marathon they should do well, but there men did horrible, so they may not be ready for the weather either, then maybe a bronze in the womens 5000 and a chance for a medal or 2 in the men's 5000.

I still think the USA will have the most golds by meets end and the most medals.

Qualifying wrote:

Time for the US to look at the qualifying process?

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This is it. They peak too soon for the USAs.

USATF took credit in the past when the US did well on the medal table. I wonder if they'll take the blame this time.

Well now they have the highest total medals, and are 3 behind Kenya for gold's... and the relays are yet to go... I'll give you they aren't as historically dominant as they've been, but they're still gonna leave Beijing on top

I assume Max will ask for a contract extension, hire some more admin staff from his nascar business, and then commission a blue ribbon panel (call it Project 25 since he needs to lower expectations for Rio). Perhaps a new marketing tour and some more usatf tv reality shows - that will get USA back on top.

douglas burke wrote:

I still think the USA will have the most golds by meets end and the most medals.

Seems like everything has to go right, including no dropped batons to get into the low twenties. The goal is 30, with 25 as baseline - 20 is a disaster. Sure you have the most medals but I assume USA expectations were 27-31 total so this (20-22 total) has to be counted as a flop.