1103 days later but well worth the wait: 2012 Olympic 1500 champ Asli Cakir Alptekin stripped of gold medal

As the other thread stated, without Bulut & Tomashova, the medals are Jamal (Z. Tola), Aregawi, Rowbury. Lets see if the IAAF will now act on Bulut & Tomashova.

Behind them, Kareiva is now banned (2 years 14-16, annulled 10-, same sting as Alptekin?), Klocova, Dobriskey, Weightman, Obiri, Uceny DNF, tripping over Kostetskaya DQ (2 year ban 13-15 and annulled 10-, same sting again?).

Considering she was beaten by 4 convicted dopers in 2005, Jamal really should be a 3x world champ (05, 07, 09), with Olympic Gold (12) and Bronze (08).

She's only running for Bahrain as the US, Canada and France turned her down first.. this, after Ethiopia didn't pick her for Athens, despite having the qualifying standard. Tola, Aregawi is an ex-Ethiopian 1-2!

How much, if any, drug testing is done on athletes who are banned from competition? Are they still subjected to out of competition testing? They are free to train no matter how long their ban. Does anyone monitor them to ensure they are training clean and return to the sport clean?

Link wrote:

Of course no one thinks that Bulut, or, probably, Jamal was clean either.... I wonder how far down in that field they'll have to go years from now to find someone who can't be busted.

Probably Rowbury was the first clean runner. Maybe Kareiva and Klocova, but the Ethiopians are filthy cheats protected by Political Correctness, Tomasheva's story is well known, and Jamal, please.

Kareiva's result has been annulled for doping. Sounds to me like you view things through 'coloured lenses'..

paularatchet wrote:

Sadly I think you have to go down to 10th place in the race to find the rightful winner. Lisa dobrisky may be clean. Women cheat in the he bed and everywh re. Sick

While your odd note of women cheating in the bed is curious in this context. It is actually statistically true that women cheat more than men.

This goes back probably to before the time humans evolved language and later romance and the idea of monogamy.

For anyone who wants to know just how badly women cheat on men, read the book Sperm Wars. Society is a freak show. Women not only cheat far more than men -- they hide it better. Judeo-Chistian societies and mores have created a nifty cover for the women - the women get furiously angry when the men are caught cheating, and then divorce or dump them instantly...mostly. You see it in the celebrity news all the time.

The man is always the pig.

Women in fact cheat more; and they cheat most at a specific time, when they are ovulating and most likely to get pregnant.

The statistic of what percentage of children's fathers are not actually their fathers is STUNNING.

Something like 25% of you....Your Dad is not Your Dad.

We now return you to your regular programming: Busting Cheaters.

Oh the ironies.

I've become almost totally disinterested in world class track and field competition and although this catch pleases me, it only lessens my level of interest a little more. It's the Salazar micro-dosing scandal that was the breaking point.

I was at the Olympic stadium for both the 1500m finals (bad choice). The almost total lack of applause for the victors said it all.

IAAF is a joke wrote:

A certain number of positives in a year and we should be saying a country doesn't have it together in terms of anti-doping. No Diamond League, no WC, no Olympic games, no European championships, whatever.

FINA has a rule on the books that four doping strikes within 365 days in international competition 'may' get a federation banned from the sport for a time. It was rather fun watching the Russians spending most of the last year sitting at three strikes when they were set to host the World Championships and kind of hoping they'd get the third strike because it would have been hilariously awkward to see a host country unable to enter a World Championships on their own soil because of a blanket 'death penalty' doping ban.

But the Russians were smart enough to keep a whole bunch of athletes out of meets that could have caused them problems with a positive and hey, it's FINA, that manages to fly under the radar despite being more screwed up than the IAAF and FIFA combined (forged World Championships entry times? No big deal. Destroying doping samples for pending world records without notifying the athlete's federation that they needed to be retested? No big deal.Invite Michael Phelps to compete at worlds as a wildcard outside his own national team? No big deal? Sun's doping suspension served in secret? No big deal, and we'll give him 2015 WC swimmer of the meet award despite the suspension and him assaulting another athlete in the warm up pool.) and they'd probably parse it out how the Russians were free to compete because the doping positivtes from European SCs weren't really an international meet and one of the positives was actually from open water instead of pool swimming and.... the dog ate the TUE paperwork....

Statistically speaking wrote:

It is actually statistically true that women cheat more than men.

Forgetting about homosexual relations for a moment, how is it mathematically possible that women cheat more than men? No statistics necessary.

Mathematically speaking wrote:

Statistically speaking wrote:

It is actually statistically true that women cheat more than men.

Forgetting about homosexual relations for a moment, how is it mathematically possible that women cheat more than men? No statistics necessary.

Number of women who cheat > Number of men who cheat?

Hint: If a woman cheats on her spouse/boyfriend with a single guy: She cheated, he did not.

Mathematically speaking wrote:

Statistically speaking wrote:

It is actually statistically true that women cheat more than men.

Forgetting about homosexual relations for a moment, how is it mathematically possible that women cheat more than men? No statistics necessary.

You have 10 male / female couples and 1 single man. If each woman in the couples cheats on their significant other with the single man, then you have 10 female cheaters, 0 male cheaters, and one total bad-ass.

Jeff Albertson wrote:

Hint: If a woman cheats on her spouse/boyfriend with a single guy: She cheated, he did not.

It's also that many women cheat with just a few guys, who, generally, are single, as they don't have to pretend to be 'in love' to get sex. It's likely that in the not so distant past, one dude impregnated most of the females (except those who were hedging their bets on the up and ahem comer).

MakhDaddy's injury was obviously a ploy to allow him to compete in the 1500 final without wasting energy giving an honest effort in the 800 rounds knowing that he had 0.00% chance of winning gold in the 800 (that Rudisha guy was one tough customer before his string of injuries). He didn't even run that fast, he just used smarter tactics than most of his opponents did. He may well have been dirty, but honestly, I don't have much trouble believing that he was clean.

God, some of you clowns blurt anything...zero factual proof of course

Here's a video interview of Rowbury the day after the Olympic 1500 final. She doesn't strike me as a doper. Quite the opposite.

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248216-2012-London-Olympic-Games/video/652960-Shannon-Rowbury-says-no-room-for-cheats#.VdIUM5fG8oc

"I was competing against an interesting mix of characters."

Indeed!

So, she gets 8 years for a second offence - why didn't Gatlin get a similar ban?

Statistically speaking wrote:

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Women in fact cheat more; and they cheat most at a specific time, when they are ovulating and most likely to get pregnant.

The statistic of what percentage of children's fathers are not actually their fathers is STUNNING.

Something like 25% of you....Your Dad is not Your Dad.

...

I believe that the most commonly believed number is 10% ( but some believe that the number could be as high as 30% )

This is what the 10% to 30% women needs to do...

She needs to cheat

The cheating needs to be done using no condoms (unprotected sex)

The woman also needs to use no other form of contraception

She needs to cheat at a time around ovulation

She needs to not get an abortion...

She needs to do all of these 5 things and yet the figure is still in the double digits

Imagine the number of women that cheat, but are actually smart enough to do (only one) of the 5 things above... The number has to be 80%+

Conclusion: don't have unprotected sex with your wife. You have no clue where she's been

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OversEEs travel wrote:

How much, if any, drug testing is done on athletes who are banned from competition? Are they still subjected to out of competition testing? They are free to train no matter how long their ban. Does anyone monitor them to ensure they are training clean and return to the sport clean?

They're still subject to out of competition testing unless they file the paperwork to officially retire. And if they retire and decide to unretire, there's a waiting period from the date of the unretirement until they can start competing again during which time they're back in the testing pool. This is stop someone from retiring, using drugs without fear of testing, and then quickly unretiring.