He still has it.
He still has it.
It's better than 4:07
I don't understand why Nate and the other Canadians who ran the standard this weekend didn't attempt to run the standard at Canadian Nationals 2 weeks ago instead of running 4:07.
Its annoying year after year when the top Canadian middle distance runners come up short of the standard time by the deadline and then people complain that it's unfair that Atheltics Canada sets an earlier date than other countries. Why don't the coaches find some races or set up some races under great conditions much earlier in the year and make some better attempts at 3:36? Has any athlete even run 3:36 in a race on Canadian soil this year?
Cdn Nationals was a joke, but the wind was a gale close to +5.0...it would have been stupid to try to run fast there, But that is no excuse for Athletics Canada not extending the qualification period for World's. With Charles PT running 3:34.23, and Brannen well under now, it is nuts Canada is sending no one the Beijing when the IAAF deadline is Aug 9. Ridiculous.
But if they knew the deadline why wouldn't they get in fast races in May and June and make some serious attempts like the 800m and Steeplechase men and women who ran standard before the deasdline? Were any of them even in a race before deadline where ANY athlete ran 3:36?
It's obvious they are worried that no one will take it out, no one wants to be the pacer, but the pace is guaranteed in the diamon league
yes, it's so annoying when canadian runners don't eff up their season by peaking early for a dumb@$$ AC rule about being in super shape well before the important race(s) of the season, what idiots all those athletes are, what are they thinking??? don't they know that the iaaf just skips rounds at WC and just awards the medals based on who was fastest back in april/may? ThankGod that AC is aware of this little known iaaf policy to award medals based on who is in shape in may (and tanked out by august), what would canadian athletes do without their omniscient leadership!!!!
Dada daddy wrote:
.....Its annoying year after year when the top Canadian middle distance runners come up short of the standard time by the deadline and then people complain that it's unfair that Atheltics Canada sets an earlier date than other countries. Why don't the coaches find some races or set up some races under great conditions much earlier in the year and make some better attempts at 3:36? Has any athlete even run 3:36 in a race on Canadian soil this year?
The problem is that not all events are created equal.
In sprints, there are plenty of opportunities to run fast early in the season
In field events, even though having competition is nice. It's not as if you need to draft behind the other high jumper.
In mid distance, you can count on one hand the races that have gone sub 3:35 before the deadline (deadline really ended 2 weeks before Cdn champs because you probably don't want to be competing the weekend before nationals).
Now, out of the handful of sub 3:35 races, how many were in North America?
There is a reason why IAAF sets deadline to early August.
Athletics Canada hates the standard chasing, but the reality is that the standard is very tough and unless you are a guy like Sullivan (don't expect a Sullivan every year. Few and far between), getting the standard is a feat for the very top elite Canadians. Less than 10 Canadians have gone sub 3:36 in the last 125 years.
Less than 10 Canadians have gone sub 3:36 in the last 125 years.
...actually, the number is exactly 4.
Two of them being CPT and Brannen. CPT for the first time a few days ago and Brannen repeatedly, including yesterday. But neither of them going to WC...
Makes sense...
Why send two of the best four 1500m runner that your nation/federation has ever produced. You should wait another 125 years until you produce better runners the them.
Cyftcctfvfyyfv wrote:
In field events, even though having competition is nice. It's not as if you need to draft behind the other high jumper.
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Distance runners are such pansies. You don't NEED to draft off of anyone. Just get out there and run. Field event people seem to do just fine without drafting and drafting would help them much more than distance runners.
The Pan am Games is in Toronto Canada I'd think the Canadians are looking to showcase their best at them.
Merber gold
Brannen silver
Wheating bronze
JJ Esparza&CPT toss up for the tin medal
low 3:40s--- mad scramble to the line at least seven runners think their kick will win it
Did any of these runners go through 1200m or even 800m at 3:35-3:36 pace in a race this year? I didn't see every race but how many times did they stick with the pack at 3:40-3:45 pace? Canadian men and women have been attempting (i.e. running at goal pace for the first 50-75% of the race) and making standard since April for other events such as women's 800m, 1500m, 5000m, 10,000m and men's 3000sc, 5000m and 10,000m. It's unfortunate that AC sets an early deadline but it was known in advance and other Canadian distance runners got the job done.
I just want to point out that in nate's case he did NO RUNNING from Aug-Jan. Hard to expect 3:35 in May.
Tdtfftryffffy wrote:
Less than 10 Canadians have gone sub 3:36 in the last 125 years....actually, the number is exactly 4.
It's 5.
Sullivan
Hood
Brannen
Philibert-Thiboutot
Consiglio
But yeah, we should send the two who've made. AC has to change its rules.
Oilers #1 wrote:
Did any of these runners go through 1200m or even 800m at 3:35-3:36 pace in a race this year? I didn't see every race but how many times did they stick with the pack at 3:40-3:45 pace? Canadian men and women have been attempting (i.e. running at goal pace for the first 50-75% of the race) and making standard since April for other events such as women's 800m, 1500m, 5000m, 10,000m and men's 3000sc, 5000m and 10,000m. It's unfortunate that AC sets an early deadline but it was known in advance and other Canadian distance runners got the job done.
Not all events are created equal(as I said). First, let's stick to men. On the women side (at 1500m), the standard is 16 seconds slower then the world record (it's completely different. Let's not compare apples to oranges).
The steeple standard (on the men side) is almost 30 seconds slower than the world record.
There are opportunities to run fast 800m in May and June.
The 1500, 5000 and 10000 is another story.
Yes, right now we have the 10000m Canadian record holder who qualified. He's on another level. So yes, he and Ahmed got their qualifier. Actually, the 10000m has even less opportunities than the 1500 m. So they are amazing.
Keep saying that the mid distance runners throughout history have all been lazy...
That's just stupid.
On ESPN2 TV in the USA
sooooon to include Mr. Jeremy Rae it would seem. Nice run by him this weekend!
Nate Brannen had Oxy cancelled on him, but had an opportunity in a race won by Kyle Merber in 3:34 at Furman university on May 31st. It was ideal conditions and 2nd place was 3:35 while 3rd was 3:36.
And then 2 weeks after Furman, Nate then finished 9th in race won by Jager in 3:32.
Athletics Canada has been an idiotic organization for decades. Sad that nothing ever seems to change.