"Call me Caitlyn Jenner." Annie Leibovitz photos

Sensitivity Chip wrote:

I wonder how the family of the woman who died in the car accident Jenner caused feels about all this? Not the transition, but all the self promotion. Posing for magazine covers, giving interviews, and just the "look at me" behavior in general, all as if that accident never happened. It seems rather insensitive. At least act like causing that accident humbled you in some manner. If I caused an accident that killed someone, I'd be a mess.

Hopefully not as much of a crazy mess as Bruce.

GD wrote:

We usually base this on bodies. Yet genes and bodies sometimes defy our expectations--for example, XY females.

I'm kind of amazed how many people on this website don't know anything about XY women after the whole Caster Semenya ordeal. Was anyone actually paying attention? Did anyone bother to google "androgen insensitivity syndrome"? Or did people choose not to pay attention because it betrayed their nice, neat, binary worlds in which everything goes according to plan?

Sensitivity Chip wrote:

I wonder how the family of the woman who died in the car accident Jenner caused feels about all this? Not the transition, but all the self promotion. Posing for magazine covers, giving interviews, and just the "look at me" behavior in general, all as if that accident never happened. It seems rather insensitive. At least act like causing that accident humbled you in some manner. If I caused an accident that killed someone, I'd be a mess.

That was Bruce. Caitlyn didn't do that.

xenonscreams wrote:

GD wrote:

We usually base this on bodies. Yet genes and bodies sometimes defy our expectations--for example, XY females.

I'm kind of amazed how many people on this website don't know anything about XY women after the whole Caster Semenya ordeal. Was anyone actually paying attention? Did anyone bother to google "androgen insensitivity syndrome"? Or did people choose not to pay attention because it betrayed their nice, neat, binary worlds in which everything goes according to plan?

Give them some time. You didn't become the expert on eating disorders that you are now overnight.

Karen Carpenter wrote:

xenonscreams wrote:

I'm kind of amazed how many people on this website don't know anything about XY women after the whole Caster Semenya ordeal. Was anyone actually paying attention? Did anyone bother to google "androgen insensitivity syndrome"? Or did people choose not to pay attention because it betrayed their nice, neat, binary worlds in which everything goes according to plan?

Give them some time. You didn't become the expert on eating disorders that you are now overnight.

I've never pretended to be an expert, but nice try

GD - great, thoughtful post.

The following image helped me a lot in my understanding of gender. Should be a helpful reference for this thread.

http://itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Genderbread-Person-3.3.jpg

That would be a brilliant defense. Denying it would be anti-transgender.

This is helpful wrote:

GD - great, thoughtful post.

The following image helped me a lot in my understanding of gender. Should be a helpful reference for this thread.

http://itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Genderbread-Person-3.3.jpg

You must be from Sodom. More fag bullshit masquerading as intellectual substance.

This board is too PC! wrote:

Hi Bruce!

Do people really think that anyone worth talking about comes on this site to put positive spin on topics? Good lord. It's just you, me and 20 other running geeks here, dude.

You can pretty well smell Bruce's feces from here

Bruce Jenner on the Wheaties box.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/01/wheaties-silent-caitlyn-jenner-support-bruce/

Regarding the Arthur Ashe Award, it is embarrassing that such a culturally significant award/achievement has become a commercialized popularity contest. I guess getting fake lady parts is right up there with overcoming racial boundaries and combating AIDS. smh

I have two more deserving candidates:

Hall of Fame QB Jim Kelly who beat cancer twice

Eric Berry fighting and beating cancer and working on his NFL comeback

They called me Bruce wrote:

That was Bruce. Caitlyn didn't do that.

This is part of why Jenner feels no guilt killing someone in "his-her" accident. Bruce did that. But, Caitlyn is the smoker who was light a cig at the time. But, it was Bruce who was man-hauling that loaded trailler.

xenonscreams wrote:

Karen Carpenter wrote:

Give them some time. You didn't become the expert on eating disorders that you are now overnight.

I've never pretended to be an expert, but nice try

True. You actually think you really are an authority on the subject.

No.

They are all mental disorders.

Why do you think any one of these is worse than the other? Because it costs more money to dress in women's clothing? They'll all bad.

None of them have healthy minds or bodies. Stop supporting these people.

Nutless nut job

The interview Apr. 24 with Diane Sawyer and now? He just doesn't look like her, Caitlyn at all!!! Facial features too young.

I don't understand why any of this makes any of you care one way or the other. I don't think he deserves to be ridiculed or praised. He is what he is, so whatever either way.

Apparently a lot of people (and more than we thought initially) have this issue, so while I still don't think praise is in order, the fact that he is a very public person who is very public about this has probably made it easier for some to decide to go further with their own transition or feel more comfortable talking about it...and that's a good thing. We all have issues in life, and I sure don't want someone suffering in a personal hell.

Whatever someone wants to do with their own body, more power to them...tattoos, piercings, modification in any way, go for it if that's what you like. I'm not into any of that, but whatever.

As my wife said, he probably waited a bit too long to do this...I mean, he (she) IS 65 years old now. How hot can she look?

Why is looking hot so important for Bruce? I wonder how the blue hair years are going to be. On the bright side. no menopause.

He picked a young woman's name. Or at least it seems that way to me. I don't know anyone over the age of 25 named Caitlynn (or any of the various other spellings).