WETMORE IS A DYNAMIC LEADER WHO IS THE GREATEST COACH OF ALL-TIME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE HE IS A RISK-TAKER!!!! YES, HE MADE SOME MISTAKES IN THE PAST BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE LEARNED FROM THEM AND HAS NOW BECOME A BETTER COACH THAN EVER. NOW HE'S WINNING NCAA'S OUT OF BASICALLY NOTHING. IF WETMORE HADN'T TAKEN THE RISKS THAT EVERYONE BEATS HIM UP ON HE WOULDN'T HAVE LEARNED TO BECOME THE GREAT COACH HE IS NOW.
john mcdonnell is a better coach than him
Out of nothing? Are you kidding me? Vaughn, Schoolmeester, Pifer, Severy, Strang. That is 4/5 guys who competed in the Footlocker Nationals. Hmmm. Far from nothing.
3 out of 5. Only Schoolmeester, Strang, and Pifer ran FootLocker. Vaughn was sick his senior year at Regionals, and got 30th or so.
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3 out of 5. Only Schoolmeester, Strang, and Pifer ran FootLocker. Vaughn was sick his senior year at Regionals, and got 30th or so.
He sucked. He could only manage 8:48. Basically a nothing in HS.
out of nothing means this
schoomester: 8:45 2mile
vaughn:8:48 2 mile
(damn these colorado guys can run fast for 2miles at sea level)
pifer: 4:05 mile, 8:50s 2mile
strang: 14:52 5k, 4:10 mile
severy: brother of jon
I like how all you can come up with for Severy is that he was a brother of John. Um, to tell you the truth, Wetmore has been doing more than you think. Realize, Solinsky and Vaughn are the same age. Who got the better place at Nationals? Solinsky once won Footlocker by the biggest margin EVER and now Vaughn is beating him. Vaughn is also now beating Ian Burrell who was kicking his ass in High School XC.
In other words, Wetmore does a pretty good job of getting all the potential out of people.
Oh, and try to find awesome creds for Severy in HS. You won't find much. He won 3A state once, and set a state record of I believe 9:22 for the 3200m run in Colorado.
Not someone you would expect to be in the top fifteen of a national NCAA meet.
Again. Look a little deeper. Solinksy has been running quite a while. Not quite the improvement curve that someone like Vaughn will have. Considering Vaughn's first year of running was his junior year (9:07 at altitude), it's probably safe to assume has has considerable talent and a huge improvement curve in front of him. One that is naturally going to be greater than solinky's who has already experienced that huge improvement in the early years. Basically, it's quite possible that though Solinsky ran faster his senior year, Vaughn is more talented when all is considered. So, yes Wetmore has done a great job developing him, but he also has quite a bit to work with. I think more impressive is the fact that he has been patient with Vaughn and not hurt him considering Vaughn is fairly new to running.
ok, look at what Ritz did, a guy with only slightly better credentials than Solinsky despite running a lot more in HS.
He was 4th as a junior in one of the best fields ever, and won last year on three months of training. Sure he had some injury problems, but you have to take that chance to be that good.
Also, look at the guys Vaughn and Schoolmeester beat that did well at FL in HS:
Class of '02: Moore, Lockhart, Ross, Meindl and a handful of other guys, plus those who have disappeared.
03' Solinsky, Aria, Smith, Curtis, Mack and others.
It seems like just about everyone who goes to CU does awesome sooner or later. Some Wisconsin and Stanford guys do well, but they get so many recruits that they can still contend, and NC St. the next top recruiter seems to have a lot of guys that never do anything.
I don't know that I'd say Burrel was kicking Vaughn's ass in High School. Vaughn started running spring of his sophomore year during track season. He won state xc his Junior year, and duked it out in one hell of a race his senior year against Burrell, who most definitely did not beat him by that much. Yeah, he outkicked vaughn in the mile at state their senior year, but Vaughn railed him the next day in the 3200. And that was after running a 8:45 3200 earlier that year. I know, only 3 second error from what was stated above, but I know anyone of you would want your PRs stated correctly, down to the second. He's still got plenty of room to go, he'll be a threat next year for sure. Watch out for Brad Harkrader as well, a CU freshman, he had a bad race last Monday. Many freshman have'em at their first nats. Hell, I think Vaughn barely cracked the top 100 as a freshman.
Dumb thread. Why don't you guys just pound your heads against the wall? If you read what you've written, you'd realize that's all you've been doing anyway. Get off the computer and do some damn homework. You have finals in 2 weeks.
he got lucky
"severy: brother of jon"
Don't you mean John Severy is the brother of the late Chris Severy? John was a really good runner even before he came to CU.
Wetmore is shit. He is Gay too. Don't believe half of what you hear about him. Big deal he Coach's running. What does that have to do with every day life. Did he invent something. Or win some great award for Science. Write a Novel. What actually has he done to make him so called Great. Nothing. Waste of a post.
Actually I'm pretty sure that Vaughn and Burrell were an even 5-5 against each other in high school including state cross, state track, Liberty Bell track meet, Arcadia, and Footlocker regionals (if my memory serves me correct, those were the only times they faced each other). They each got the better of the other a time or two, but Vaughn was the neophyte then and Ian was the veteran (as far as years running).
No one can argue with Vaughns' continued success, however - he's got unlimited potential!!
I know many Michigan alums and you sir are no Wolverine. Wetmore is a wonderful coach who pulled off the greatest team upset and one of the greatest team doubles in the history of college cross country. GFY.