If we ever get chased by a lion, I don't need to run faster than the lion; I just need to run faster than you.
It's important to be strong, but pullups aren't real-world functional. You don't need to pull yourself into the tree 30 times in a row. Massive overuse of the biceps.
What you need is strong shoulders pectorals and triceps to wield your spear which lions have feared and run away from for thousands of generations. Even the giant Smilodon was no match for the spear-wielding hairless apes when they reached America.
You only need your biceps to help retrieve the spear after you kill the lion.
Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:
Izzzee wrote:Is that what this guy is talking about? Seriously? WTF?
This troll has posted the same picture for the 30th time. It's getting old.
Point is, if a lion is chasing you, you want to pull up that tree or mountain as quickly and efficiently as you can. That would be kipping. Done right, this is also a perfectly safe exercise.
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Using ones rotator cuffs as a trampoline is "safe"?
Are you Mentolin posting under another name?
This is the funniest thread of the day.
Climbing trees won't help. Lions can climb trees.
Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:{/b]
Point is, if a lion is chasing you, you want to pull up that tree or mountain as quickly and efficiently as you can. That would be kipping. Done right, this is also a perfectly safe exercise.
Whats more, women love see me do pullups at the outdoor gym at the beach.
Stupid xfitter, you don't need a single kipping pullup in Africa, and it wouldn't do any good even if you could.
Speak softly and carry a 44 magnum. 3 1/2 pounds plus ammo. I think Galen Rupp could manage that.
If you go do Kilimanjaro (warning: you actually need some endurance here), guides won't let you go anywhere without a gun to protect you. It wouldn't matter how many kipping pullups Rich Froning could do or how many times he can lift light weights in front of a mirror. He wouldn't stand a chance in hell against an adult leopard unarmed, and the average crossfitter might be able to outrun a black mamba: Both of these kill more people than lions, and BTW, the mambas can go 12 mph, and if one bites you, you're dead.
I think the average distance runner wouldn't be stupid enough to get into a position like this.
Bad Wigins wrote:
It's important to be strong, but pullups aren't real-world functional. You don't need to pull yourself into the tree 30 times in a row. Massive overuse of the biceps.
What you need is strong shoulders pectorals and triceps to wield your spear which lions have feared and run away from for thousands of generations. Even the giant Smilodon was no match for the spear-wielding hairless apes when they reached America.
You only need your biceps to help retrieve the spear after you kill the lion.
This had potential but turned into blubbering drivel.
Oltimer wrote:
That is not a pullup:
http://i.imgur.com/Kqctx.gif
Fit guy is a skinny runner and a troll, but I'll defend Crossfit's pullup. There are two main factors in allowing the kip:
1. Even in a strict dead-hang pullup, your legs will swing out as you lift your body up. As you move your upper body to one side of the bar, your legs swing out to keep your center of gravity directly beneath the bar. If your legs are going to swing out 12 inches then it's easy to add a bit of a kip. Just an inch or two. Most people who do strict pull-ups do add a bit of a kip despite themselves. And therein lies the rub. There is no "bright clear line" you can draw between a kipping and a non-kipping pullup. So the judges in Crossfit judges couldn't enforce a no-kip pullup even if they wanted to.
Baseball had the same problem. Back in the day the pitcher was supposed to serve the ball nice and easy - and underhand. The batter could even request which side of the plate they wanted it. But pitchers began adding a bit of a wrist snap at the end. It was impossible for the umpires to enforce a correct pitch and they eventually gave up and just let the pitchers throw however they wanted.
2. Crossfit's general theme is to favor maximal power output over strict motions. So for sit-ups they let you throw your arms forward rather than keep them behind your head. This allows you to do more reps faster, which gets you more winded. But the movement isn't as strict. Kipping pull-ups are easier, but you'll get more winded doing a minute all-out at 60% of your 1 RM than doing a minute all-out at 85% of your 1 RM. Crossfit wants to train the aerobic and muscular systems at the same time.
Now, maybe they are wrong to take this emphasis (I don't think they emphasize strength as much as they should), but they are consistent in their goals.
There is a difference between the body english thrown in to extend a set of pullups and the forceful rocking back and forth motion used for rep after countless rep ripping up one's rotator cuff. Add to that all the overhead lifts and overhead squats and it's easy to see why the crossfit injury rate is so high. Given that any noob can open up a box with a three day certification its a guaranteed road to a ruined shoulder joint.
Alan
runningart2004 wrote:
it's easy to see why the crossfit injury rate is so high.
FACT: CrossFit (please use correct spelling/capitalization) has a lower injury rate than what you call "running" (aka long distance jogging).
The problem with Crossfit is:
- sloppy form
- focus on time
- focus on reps
If you want to progress, either focus on 5 reps and use heavy weights (weight belt) or go towards the 8-10 rep range for maximum hypertrophy.
30 pullups is just plain useless.
Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:
runningart2004 wrote:it's easy to see why the crossfit injury rate is so high.
FACT: CrossFit (please use correct spelling/capitalization) has a lower injury rate than what you call "running" (aka long distance jogging).
I have never seen someone paralyzed by running.
Correct spelling and capitalization like you did in your username?
Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:
Izzzee wrote:Is that what this guy is talking about? Seriously? WTF?
This troll has posted the same picture for the 30th time. It's getting old.
Point is, if a lion is chasing you, you want to pull up that tree or mountain as quickly and efficiently as you can. That would be kipping. Done right, this is also a perfectly safe exercise.
Whats more, women love see me do pullups at the outdoor gym at the beach.
Crossfitters are narcissists and develop bulk which is an encumbrance in a natural setting. Crossfitters are soft inside and would easily be run down and killed. There is a reason why the human form evolved and thrived as an ectomorph over the last 200,000 years.
This badass 73 year old Kenyan killed a leopard with his BARE HANDS. People in Kenya develop mental and physical strength because of the hard lives they are forced to live.
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Ageing_Farmer_Kills_Leopard_With_Bare_Hands_In_Kenya.htmlXfit_guy, are you in this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnb9H5nvya8
coach d wrote:
If you go do Kilimanjaro (warning: you actually need some endurance here), guides won't let you go anywhere without a gun to protect you. It wouldn't matter how many kipping pullups Rich Froning could do or how many times he can lift light weights in front of a mirror. He wouldn't stand a chance in hell against an adult leopard unarmed, and the average crossfitter might be able to outrun a black mamba: Both of these kill more people than lions, and BTW, the mambas can go 12 mph, and if one bites you, you're dead.
BTW, mambas do NOT go around chasing people. EVER.
Moron.
False. That gif will never get old.Pull up a mountain? lolz.
Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:
This troll has posted the same picture for the 30th time. It's getting old.
Point is, if a lion is chasing you, you want to pull up that tree or mountain as quickly and efficiently as you can. That would be kipping. Done right, this is also a perfectly safe exercise.
Whats more, women love see me do pullups at the outdoor gym at the beach.
non_xfit wrote:
False. That gif will never get old.
Agreed. It is absolutely hilarious what these people call pullups.
sc42 wrote:
I am willing to bet that I am one of the very few people on this board who HAS been charged by a lion. This was in 1988 when I was living in Serengeti National Park. No pull-ups were involved, but here I am to tell the tale.
How much did it charge?
Tada!