Galen is in the very early base building phase. But given that, even out of shape and no marathon specific stuff, Galen could probably still rock 2:15 right now. Sage could rock 2:17-2:18. (on fast course, slow course minus 2-3 minutes)
A full build up and marathon specific workouts for a fall marathon, Galen would be able to run 2:09 in a place like Chicago but more like 2:07 in Berlin.
With the proper training, Galen could run a 2:03. So, the answer to this question is a resounding NO.
He'd probably get lapped and come back to win it, but only if he ran on pure hate and ran it in trainers.
Sage can't beat ME in a marathon. Rupp could walk the first mile and still beat Sage. Rupp could get off all the dope and TUEs and still beat Sage by five minutes, while wearing HOKAs. Seriously, this is an idiotic thread. Sage could hang with the women on a good day, but might not beat them. It doesn't matter if Sage trains for two months or twenty years, he ain't beating Rupp. And I despise Rupp more than you would think is possible.
Let's see if Sage can beat little Jordan first before he takes on the more experienced doping NOPers.
I feel pity for guys like Sage. He wants to be thought of as important when it comes to training but he isn't. He has run for Rojo and the Hansons so he has picked up just enough to be dangerous. I will guarantee that 20 years from now, Sage will never have coached anyone of importance. He will still be attacking those that have.
The fact that Rupp's 10k PR is vastly superior to his 5k should suggest that he's going to eventually have some success in the marathon.
He's also already run a 60:00 half when he wasn't even in the kind of form he's in these days.
Yeah, I'm gonna say that Rupp could run 2:15 in his sleep, and Sage would be lucky to get there in the perfect race with a tailwind.
Another way to look at it. Rupp is only a step or two behind his training partner, Mo Farah. Farah just bonked his way to a 2:09 or whatever last year.
Rupp's marathon ceiling is a million miles higher than Sage's. Hell, his floor is higher than Sage's ceiling.
If Rupp wanted to he could break 2 hours in the marathon. I mean give him 2 weeks of marathon specific training and 2 hours is in the bag. Farah can break 2:10 Rupp easily breaks 2 hours. This is a stupid conversation. I bet by the time Rupp is done running he runs 1:4X for the marathon. Can't believe how many people in this thread underestimate Rupp. Even those that think he would easily be Canaday aren't realizing how good Rupp actually is. Idiots.
Sage is a good runner for sure, but I'd say Rupp would win this one if for some reason he had to do a marathon at max effort.
Sage's PR is 2:16 right? I would put Rupp at 2:14, and that's just off his normal 10k training.
I think you guys are underestimating the difficulty of the marathon. Sage would win in a cakewalk.
OP never said it was a road marathon. They should race 2. One flat on the roads and one mountain trail. Lowest total time wins.
I'll take Sage.
On, let's say, the Houston course used for the last Olympic Trials:
Sage - 2:16:45 and clean
Rupp - 2:14:45 and extremely dirty
excellent retort. well done
Raysism wrote:
josephfishkin wrote:You guys are crazy. Rupp is coming off a terrible indoor season and has never done marathon training in his life, no way he could run sub 2:20 right now.
Let's say you had a friend who wanted to know if you thought he could break 2:18, and you asked him what he's done over the last three years, and he gave you a training history that mirrored Galen Rupp's last three years in every way. You're going to tell that friend that he won't break 2:20?
Maybe this is why you don't have any friends.
I saw Rupp yesterday. He did 10 x 800 at 1:59 on 2' rest. I guess it were Yasso 800s. So he would run 1:59. Sorry Sage ;)