can any of the NCAA historians out Jenkins' run in perspective for us? Clearly the guy is in monster shape (based on his early season time and then his 7:44, I would guess close to 13:18 shape), but it's hard to conceptualize a 13:45ish race.
How does this compare to some of Cragg's wins? His 2:29 from the front was impressive, how fast did a Solinsky or someone similar close slow races?
Any thoughts?
Good question.
Solinsky won his 5k in 13:38 in 2007 so it might be a good comparsion. I went back to the homepage from 2007 to see if we had any details on the race but take a look at the HP:
http://www.letsrun.com/2007/homepage0310.php
People think LetsRun.com hasn't improved? We didn't cover hardly anything ourselves back then.
Here are the winners from recent years:1999 Brad Hauser, Stanford, 13:52.792000 David Kimani, South Ala., 13:52.582001 David Kimani, Alabama, 13:42.322002 Alistair Cragg, Arkansas, 13:49.802003 Alistair Cragg, Arkansas, 13:28.932004 Alistair Cragg, Arkansas, 13:39.632005 Ian Dobson, Stanford, 13:43.362006 Josphat Boit, Arkansas, 13:49.932007 Chris Solinsky, Wisconsin, 13:38.612008 Shadrack Songok, A&M-Corpus Christi, 13:51.262009 Galen Rupp, Oregon, 13:41.452010 David McNeill, Northern Ariz., 13:36.412011 Leonard Korir, Iona, 13:26.012012 Lawi Lalang, Arizona, 13:25.112013 Kennedy Kithuka, Texas Tech, 13:25.382014 Edward Cheserek, Oregon, 13:46.67And thankfully we have you covered. I found this from 2009: Rupp was a monster.http://www.letsrun.com/2009/homepage0314.phpTake a look at that face on Rupp.He won the 5000 and then anchored the DMR. Sick.Rupp closed the 5k in 1:55 and ran 13:41.45
LRC wrote:
The early pace was slow (4:31 at the 1,600 - 14:07 pace). Chelanga then threw in a 60-point 400, but it was just a test to see who would go with him and then things slowed back down again.
The 3k was reached in 8:29 and the pack was still very large. The pace picked up the 600m from 3,400m to 4,000m (31.90, 31.32, and 31.87 were Rupp's laps), but then things slowed down again as everyone gathered themselves for the big move. Rupp struck on the backstretch with about 750 to go. He bolted to the front and Chelanga and Arkansas' Shawn Forest stayed the closest, but Rupp would not slow down until the finish. He got faster each lap until the finish - 29.61 (his sprint started 1/3 of the way into this lap), 28.71, 28.12 and a final 28.86, where he was able to take his foot off the pedal as he looked back and saw he had it won.
His final 800 was an incredibly stellar 1:55.28, including letting up at the end.
Rupp's last 3k was 7:59.00 flat. His last 1k in that baby was 2:29.40 but that included a 33.82 from 4k to 4200.
11:12.05 (33.82),11:46.17 (34.13),12:15.77 (29.61),12:44.48 (28.71),13:12.60 (28.12),13:41.45 (28.86)
http://flashresults.com/2009_Meets/indoor/NCAAChamps/Results-007-01.pdfwait i thought Rupp couldn't kick/had no speed whatsoever in college???? it was all a newfound NOP thing, right???
Does anyone recall Chris Solinsky's last 1200 in his NCAA Indoor title? I'm thinking it might have been 3:00 or even under.
we already discussed this wrote:
wait i thought Rupp couldn't kick/had no speed whatsoever in college???? it was all a newfound NOP thing, right???
Rupp ran a 1:49 800 Indoors his senior year which I thought was shocking at the time for a 10k runner. I doubt that his supplemental training methods only started after he graduated.
Wait, what? It was pretty clearly communicated back then between anyone who followed the sport. Rupp could close like a badass against college kids, and hang his nose in there with the pros and impress. However, until the OT 5000m he NEVER closed great against an elite field of a solid pace.
but Jenkins is getting there
no, no. That was the first time Rupp could close hard enough to win college championships on the track (his first track championship). Closing in 7:59/2:29 is almost exactly what Jenkins did in a slightly slower race overall.
I'd say Jenkins is about in Rupp's '09 shape, give or take a few mL of oxygen/kg body weight
Oh man. How epic would it be if Jenkins, Rupp, and Ches were all in college at the same time? Add to those Derrick, Lalang, and Chelanga, and I might pass out from yelling at the screen.
um where did the posts calling out Rojo for accusing Rupp/AlSal/NOP for doping/doing something illegal to acquire his vaunted kick go?
My favorite was the headline
Rupp will do anything to help team win
And immediately below it another headline
Wheating has a blister
Perfect.
You Know Me wrote:
My favorite was the headline
Rupp will do anything to help team win
And immediately below it another headline
Wheating has a blister
Perfect.
And on the other side of the page, there's a headline about Verzbicas breaking the national HS indoor 5k record as a freshman. He'd still be at Oregon if not for his decision...
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