Lenny Leonard wrote:
Doug's about 6', 190lbs. Also 54.
http://www.athlinks.com/athletes/40994207/profile
Bumping this again because Doug Fernandez is the proof you are looking for. Sub-6 mile pace for a marathon for 50+ years old and 185+ lbs. if he can do it, I'd imagine most 25-39 runners that are under 200 lbs could run close to 2:40 or faster if trained.
Just dont pull a Rossi or a Victor Rivera in us ;)
I ran a 2:40 at age 34 . I was 6-3 and 190lbs. Still angry I was not sub 2:40.
Lenny Leonard wrote:
Lenny Leonard wrote:Doug's about 6', 190lbs. Also 54.
http://www.athlinks.com/athletes/40994207/profileBumping this again because Doug Fernandez is the proof you are looking for. Sub-6 mile pace for a marathon for 50+ years old and 185+ lbs. if he can do it, I'd imagine most 25-39 runners that are under 200 lbs could run close to 2:40 or faster if trained.
Fernandez is pretty amazing. He says he's about 180 (~ 1 yr ago).
http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/54-year-old-man-wins-harrisburg-marathonI am 6'4" 220lbs and I've run two marathons, a 3:01 and a 3:06 last Fall in Cape Cod in which I walked the entire last mile.
Umnoooooo... wrote:
BMI is not a valid statistic. Anyone who mentions BMI invalidates any other post they might ever make or have made.
BMI has nothing to do with running. Everyone who has 22-25 BMI should just lose weight if they want to be fast.
Not fast at all but I'll throw my time out there - 3:20:26 @ 6'4''/225 lbs
BMI is not a valid statistic. Anyone who mentions BMI invalidates any other post they might ever make or have made.
It's not as bad as many people think. The scaling exponent is wrong, but in the range of values that is relevant it works ok. Longitudinal studies indicate that people with BMIs over 25 or over 30 or over 35 are at progressively greater risk for heart disease and diabetes and other medical problems.
A lot of people stupidly interpret "overweight" as "fat" and so say things like "but I am 6 foot of pure muscle and not fat although I have a BMI of 30". What they don't understand is that a 6 foot 210lb guy who is all muscle has an elevated risk of health problems, like heart disease. All that muscle and weight isn't healthy.
back woods wrote:
What they don't understand is that a 6 foot 210lb guy who is all muscle has an elevated risk of health problems, like heart disease. All that muscle and weight isn't healthy.
Not really. BMI is just a crude measure of statistical risk. It does not separate fat and muscle.
If that 6 foot 210lb guy has great cholesterol and blood pressure numbers, he is at much lower risk than an average thin person.
Especially for diabetes muscle mass is even protective. Blood pressure is the number that tends to get higher with a lot of muscle.
I've never run a marathon, just up through half-marathon. I find that my crummy natural speed (200m & 400m) is a greater limitation than my stockiness. What's your current 400 ability?
There needs to be a BRI: Body Ratio Index, or the ratio of waist diameter to height. Anything over 0.5 is overfat. At 6'0" and 30-inch waist, I am 0.41
When I see 187 I think that's a lot but it's the same as me, 5'8'', being 158 it's not really that much. I've met a 5k runner who ran 14:43 at 165 and 5'8''. Also, isn't Nick Symmonds like 5'10'' and 172lbs? And he's past his prime but fast af.
Not good enough to use a single ratio. I'm short and stocky. My ratio is 0.52, and my doctor calls me "a thin person" whenever I go. BMI of 23.
Why didn't you try to safely lose 20 pounds and have a shot at the Olympic trials?
Marathon Fan wrote:
I ran 2:29 at 6' 175. Lots of 100 mile weeks and a good 20 previous marathons in the bank before finally cracking 2:30.
I ran a 2:59 this year at 6 feet, 180 lbs. off about 25 miles per week. No easy runs - just tempo runs, LT runs, and long runs.
I broke 19 minutes in the 5K a couple times at 195 lbs.
I've cut ~10lbs. as the year has progressed.
Ran 2:54 when a little under 180.
Your doctor sees nothing but fat people all day. You need to reduce.
I'm stocky wrote:
Not good enough to use a single ratio. I'm short and stocky. My ratio is 0.52, and my doctor calls me "a thin person" whenever I go. BMI of 23.
I'm on the heavier side I guess. I'm 5'11 and at my peak marathon shape, I weighed 165-170. My fastest time was 2:35.
5' 8" 200, built like a high school fullback, and I ran 2:37 off of 22 miles a week at age 52
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Not super heavy, but not average size runner either- 5' 11'', 175 lb. - 2:39:49 in Amsterdam a few days ago- https://results.sporthive.com/events/6457579627025192192/races/446288/bib/15003