This is This Week's Premier League Thread 1/31-2/1

wejo wrote:

I have one more question. Let's say Dwight Gayle started scoring a goal every game. Palace fans take it for granted then that he would be sold to a bigger club. Why? I don't really understand how the transfers work, but if I was a mid level team that was secure (if DG was scoring every game Palace would be secure, I would want to keep my best players and try and move up the table). If you sell a player, the only way to go get another one is to go buy him right?

It's just like talented players stuck on crappy teams in MLB/NBA. Eventually, their contracts will expire and they will either want to get paid a lot more or go to a team where they can contend for a championship. If a smaller club like Palace can't offer them either of those things (and they likely can't), they'll go off to one of the big boys. If Palace doesn't think it can keep him, it will sell him a year or two before his contract is up to ensure they get some value for him.

As for this weekend, Chelsea vs. Man City is going to be a great one. Both clubs will be angry after getting dumped out of the cup this weekend and if Chelsea win, they'll open up an 8-point gap at the top of the table. City really can't afford to lose this one.

It will also be great to see what kind of reception Frank Lampard gets at Stamford Bridge.

Profit-sharing does exist, particularly in Spain. The issue is clubs like Man Utd are so famous they bring in an absolute ton of money from the brand, so they can afford to spend more.

Mid-table clubs aim for Europa league, besides just winning week-to-week.

I agree it's tempting to keep the stars. But the players can force a transfer as you can't exactly make someone play well for you. Also, every player has a price, which is usually not too massive for poor clubs.

wejo wrote:

I'll also continue to educate the LRCers new to the game of soccer:

Us all now how big you and you're brother are on edjumikashun.

Is Arsenal any good? They have the best uniforms, so I guess that's the team to cheer for.

Stoke!

wejo, in football (yes football, the world game) you can't change your team, you've got them for life through thick and thin, you lose credibility and are the focus of derision for life in the football world if you change allegiance, even greater derision than you get for being a Palace supporter when you could have gone for Spurs initially.

COYS

wejo wrote:

I have one more question. Let's say Dwight Gayle started scoring a goal every game. Palace fans take it for granted then that he would be sold to a bigger club. Why? I don't really understand how the transfers work, but if I was a mid level team that was secure (if DG was scoring every game Palace would be secure, I would want to keep my best players and try and move up the table). If you sell a player, the only way to go get another one is to go buy him right?

Here's one reason and Man U are not even a mid-level team trying to hang on to a player.

COYS

Arsenic wrote:

wejo wrote:

I'll also continue to educate the LRCers new to the game of soccer:

Us all now how big you and you're brother are on edjumikashun.

Is Arsenal any good? They have the best uniforms, so I guess that's the team to cheer for.

In order to participate, you have to speak football properly:

"Are Arsenal any good"

"They have the best kits"

"so I guess that's the club to support"

HardLoper wrote:

Arsenic wrote:

Us all now how big you and you\'re brother are on edjumikashun.

Is Arsenal any good? They have the best uniforms, so I guess that\'s the team to cheer for.

In order to participate, you have to speak football properly:

\"Are Arsenal any good\"

\"They have the best kits\"

\"so I guess that\'s the club to support\"

What\'s brit for \"toothbrush\"?

I finally figured out what COYP meant this week. I didnt realize every club had its version.

And when jon told me his dad would suggest he quit working with letsrun once he found out I was a palace fan I tried to dampen the blow by saying I was a Dwight Gayle fan more than a palace fan. He then told me I was stuck that was my team. And I did notice I'd watch the entire games with Gayle only getting a glimpse of the pitch. However I'm glad pardew read my threads on the palace forums on how by far Gayle was the most productive scorer on the team and since then he's been playing a lot more and scoring.

With the transfers it seems it would be beneficial for the players to wait for their contracts to be up to move. Instead of the club.paying 40 million transfer and 10 million salary they could pay say 25 million for two years to the player. What am I missing?

And how can players just quit playing and force a transfer? That doesn't happen in other sports.

Wejo, we realize that being a trustafarian means that you'll never have a job or need to be anyplace, but do you really have no sense of time? Do you believe that it is January 31st, and that a week is only two days long?

wejo wrote:

With the transfers it seems it would be beneficial for the players to wait for their contracts to be up to move. Instead of the club.paying 40 million transfer and 10 million salary they could pay say 25 million for two years to the player. What am I missing?

The buying team is paying the transfer fee, so I don't get your scenario? Players with ridiculous upside/talent (worth more than their current salaries) require high transfer fees. When the Detroit Tigers traded a bunch of prospects for Miguel Cabrera, the prospects were the "transfer fee." Transfer fee is just a monetary value rather than a player/prospect/draft pick in exchange for a player in an American sports trade. The selling team can use that transfer money to buy more players, so it all ends up being paid in salaries eventually.

wejo wrote:

"I finally figured out what COYP meant this week. I didnt realize every club had its version."

So what is it?

"With the transfers it seems it would be beneficial for the players to wait for their contracts to be up to move. Instead of the club.paying 40 million transfer and 10 million salary they could pay say 25 million for two years to the player. What am I missing?" -

Yeah, but it rarely happens, the player may be keen to move on for a variety of reasons, (also the opposite the player may not i.e. Gareth Bale doesn't want to leave Real Madrid

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31016282

), the club may want to cash in, they may have a good young player in reserves to replace a player they want to sell, club and/or player may be unhappy for a variety of reasons, Google Mario Balotelli, etc.

And how can players just quit playing and force a transfer?

Again, rarely happens, but it does, they just don't play to their full potential and they get moved to the bench or reserves and any potential buyer club knows the game being played, the question they have to ask is do they really want a player like that?

Dangerously Innerbred wrote:

British Teeth wrote:

What's brit for "toothbrush"?

Oh, I say! That's frightfully brilliant, whot? Oh reeelly. My word, so cheeky, daft and dodgy. I'm gobsmacked and simply must get on my mobile to my dos gits. Quit ogling posh spice's bristols, you div chav. Cheerio!

You just won the internet, mate.

And the other poster forgot to mention boots. Football is played with boots.

#COYP Come on you Palace.

#COYS I assumed it was Come on You Spurs but I guess it could be Come on You Stoke.

1/31-2/1 Those are the days of the matches this week. I thought I got it wrong and should have made it 2/2 but I see there is no Monday night game this week and no Monday nighters the rest of the season. Can someone explain that?

I also see that starting April 4th and for the rest of the season all the games are Saturday 3pm games. Is that really the case? Those are the games that aren't on TV in Britain right?. Or is that just a placeholder on the schedule? I find it hard to believe the EPL makes it so the last 8 weeks of the season everyone in Britain can't watch a game unless they go to one or find an illegal stream. And the rest of the world is left to only watching one match at a time. Is that really the case? Can someone explain how financially that is best case for the league?

wejo wrote:

I also see that starting April 4th and for the rest of the season all the games are Saturday 3pm games. Is that really the case? Those are the games that aren't on TV in Britain right?. Or is that just a placeholder on the schedule? I find it hard to believe the EPL makes it so the last 8 weeks of the season everyone in Britain can't watch a game unless they go to one or find an illegal stream. And the rest of the world is left to only watching one match at a time. Is that really the case? Can someone explain how financially that is best case for the league?

I'm sure that's just a placeholder. Last day of the season all the matches will probably start at the same time (they did last year) but right now the TV networks just haven't picked which games they want to show.

It does amaze me the Palace-Brighton rivalry even though they are in separate leagues now.

Palace signed a new midfielder Jordon Mutch today for £5 million (i finally figure out how to type £ on a computer). And of course there is reference to whether the Palace "B" team could beat Brighton:

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=12209282&postcount=997

Also it amazes me Mutch could be any good if he can't even play for QPR but Dwight Gayle was in a plumber's league 3 years ago.

wejo wrote:

I also see that starting April 4th and for the rest of the season all the games are Saturday 3pm games. Is that really the case? Those are the games that aren't on TV in Britain right?. Or is that just a placeholder on the schedule? I find it hard to believe the EPL makes it so the last 8 weeks of the season everyone in Britain can't watch a game unless they go to one or find an illegal stream.

Its possible that they might announce changes to fixture time and dates 6-8 weeks prior to the fixtures, i'm not sure... I'm from the UK and the only games that i know where they are all 3pm kick-offs on the same day are those on the final day of the season (these are announced the week before the season climax because the televised games are determined based on teams in a possible Premier League championship decider or a tight relegation battle)

wejo wrote:

It does amaze me the Palace-Brighton rivalry even though they are in separate leagues now.

You don't understand British soccer fans do you.

We've hated Nottingham F*rest since 1864 despite the fact we've been in the same division as them about 25 years out of the last 126.

Altogether now!

We hate Nottingham F*rest

We hate F*rest too

and F*rest

We hate Nottingham F*rest

Oh F*rest we hate you!

wejo wrote:

#COYP Come on you Palace.

#COYS I assumed it was Come on You Spurs but I guess it could be Come on You Stoke.

wejo, there's only one official Come On You ..... and that's claimed by Spurs, there's no COYP, COYM, COYC, etc.