Ryan Deak

Just another reinforcement of my opion as Khadroui and Hess ran 2 of the top 6 times ever at Holmdel whcich is time tested by many previous FL participants from NJ and they are no where , no where close to being 9 flat guys ..not now not in the spring

Hey Kong98 and all you other biased easterners, California HS XC is the most screwed up system around. They expect these kids (M & F) to run League Champs, State Qualifiers, State Champs, Footlocker West Region and Footlocker Finals on 5 consecutive weekends. (and most have their rivalry dual meet the week prior to League) And the coaches aren't smart enough to sit their runners or have them run only to qualify.

Check out the finishes and times from CA State (M & W) and note how many winners and top finishers ran great in Fresno, but did not have the proper recovery for Mt SAC. Only Trafeh, who did 120 MPW all summer and fall, managed to win State, qualify for FL (8th and final place) and then top 10 in the finals at San Diego. And he now has double stress fractures.

king99 wrote:

Just another reinforcement of my opion as Khadroui and Hess ran 2 of the top 6 times ever at Holmdel whcich is time tested by many previous FL participants from NJ and they are no where , no where close to being 9 flat guys ..not now not in the spring

I don't know about Peter Hess, but I know that Mohammed Khadroui is a ENTIRELY different runner than what he was in May 02'. I'll make sure, I'll keep you updated on him.

let me help you out here:

i'll use an example of someone we are all familiar with: dathan ritzenheim. his senior year in cross he ran a 14:10 5k at his state CROSS COUNTRY meet-- his split at 2 miles was about 8:55... this was 3 weeks before his "peak" race, i believe... now what do you think he would've run for 3200 meters on the track the weekend of footlocker after tapering-- if you say ANYTHING slower than 8:45, then you're just kidding yourself... what did he run that spring for 3200??? 8:41...

hitting the track for a bunch of fast repeats in the spring does NOT make you a better 2 miler. period. if you think these footlocker kids are all in 9:10-9:20 shape in december and "magically" drop to sub-9 in the spring, you simply know NOTHING about the physiology of distance running...

facts--you are king99's bitch--he owns you. I would refute what you just said in your post if I understood it. You just want to argue. Try thinking for a change.

I think you have to look at the course each runner qualified on. For example, the south was a flat fast track runners XC course. THerefore I think that almost all of them were in around 9 flat shape, b/c most were track runners. Now you go to like the NE and there course is a strength course, so they didn't have to be in 9 flat shape b/c they are better XC runners. Then all groups go to nat's, and it's a pretty tough XC course, so again you don't need to be in 9 flat shape to place well.

It's just that track and XC are 2 totally different things. Just because someones in 9 flat shape doesn't mean he's the best cross runner on a relatively tough XC course.

i hung out with the "deakster" (that's what he has his close friends call him) for most of 2 days at FL in SD. he told me that he was doing monster miles since the end of track in june; like up to 138 per week with average over 115. he never mentioned this jk character, but said that he didn't tell his florida coaches what he was really running since he was afraid that they would cut him off from his online coach. he also said that he would be hitting 175 per week by the time he graduated from hs so that he could be ready to win right away at colorado.

Deak just ran an impressive 5 miler yesterday.

Sucker Run 5 Mile, Jan. 11, 2003

Bainbridge, Ga.

Place First Last Sex Age Time

1 Ryan Deak M 17 25:14

2 Lee Willis M 29 25:18

3 Breeda Willis F 32 27:13

4 Bill McGuire M 55 29:32

5 Robert Roller M 44 29:49

6 Timothy Unger M 43 29:56

7 Tony Guillen M 34 30:05

8 Briann Hickey M 34 30:12

9 Al Goudznard M 46 30:13

10 Brian Corbin M 35 30:18

11 Tom McGaffic M 21 30:20

12 Felton Wright M 45 30:23

13 Steve Barraco M 47 30:28

14 Matthew Minno M 43 30:33

15 Dwayne Maddron M 41 30:36

16 David Yon M 47 30:42

17 Bob Braman M 44 30:48

18 William Hillison M 58 31:03

catman wrote:

facts--you are king99's bitch--he owns you. I would refute what you just said in your post if I understood it. You just want to argue. Try thinking for a change.

You make it very easy to point out one of your chief flaws: '...if I understood it.' You don't understand it but feeled compelled to reply anyway. Most people, if they don't understand something seek to do so or don't say anything for fear something dumb will come out of their mouth. Being dumb hasn't stopped you.

Catman who the f*** do you coach? What do you run? because they way you talk you better be damn fast, or coach people who are.