Seemingly great performance by Moses Mosop in Xiamen, winning in 2:06:19 and bettering Wanjiru's Chinese soil record (2:06:32 from Beijing).
Great signal that he was able to pull away and have strength the last 10km of the race, as well as running 2:06 in a race where 5th was 2:10!
http://www.iaaf.org/news/report/xiamen-marathon-2015-dibaba-mosop
What was his prize earnings? Must be great to have such a talent that you can basically win the lottery for your family every time you line up.
$40,000 USD for Win
$10,000 USD for Course Record
... there was $1M USD for World Record
no PED controls in China
Awesome. So then one could potentially dope and make thousands, if not millions, like most athletes on the planet (NFL, NHL, MLB, Athletics, Rowing, Swimming, NBA, Tennis, Cycling, Triathlon, Boxing...). I don't know of a sport in which the elite don't dope.
When are you going to understand that doping is irrelevant is professional athletics?
co wrote:
When are you going to understand that doping is irrelevant is professional athletics?
Irrelevant?
Not to the people losing money to dopers.
the people losing money to dopers have no shot beating the dopers if they don't dope. learn what talent is, buddy.
although position may not matter, times do.
2:03 dope is 2:06 clean.
Especially after that very critical press release by his former manager last year, I agree that it seems like a great performance by Mosop -- close to his winning time in the 2011 Chicago marathon and only about 75 seconds or so slower than his PR in the 2012 Rotterdam marathon, where he was badly beaten over the last 12k or so by a pair of Ethiopian runners. (Of course, I'm excluding his time in the grossly aided 2011 Boston race -- a fine performance, but not one that I would rate higher than his Chicago victory.) I was wondering if anyone could comment on the course conditions in Xiamen. Also, I was wondering if he's being coached by anyone these days.
clkj wrote:
the people losing money to dopers have no shot beating the dopers if they don't dope.
This supports my point.
If this is the case, then it follows that doping is not irrelevant, which is what I wrote.
Avocado's Number wrote:
Especially after that very critical press release by his former manager last year, I agree that it seems like a great performance by Mosop -- close to his winning time in the 2011 Chicago marathon and only about 75 seconds or so slower than his PR in the 2012 Rotterdam marathon, where he was badly beaten over the last 12k or so by a pair of Ethiopian runners. (Of course, I'm excluding his time in the grossly aided 2011 Boston race -- a fine performance, but not one that I would rate higher than his Chicago victory.) I was wondering if anyone could comment on the course conditions in Xiamen. Also, I was wondering if he's being coached by anyone these days.
Relatively flat couse. Temps were in the high 60's/70's with humidity in the 40's. Air quality is a problem no matter how much people say it's not. The air quality is good relative to the rest of China but it is still poor. Good result from Moses considering the struggles he has gone through of late.
logician, his point is that if you were to dope, you would not beat Galen Rupp. If the top Division I runner would dope, he would not beat Bernard Lagat.
Doping is irrelevant to performance level.
Avocado's Number wrote:
Air quality is a problem no matter how much people say it's not. The air quality is good relative to the rest of China but it is still poor. Good result from Moses considering the struggles he has gone through of late.
intersting point about air quality.
as ive often wondered what fuels are used by the cars, vans, motorbikes that have the tv cameras etc, infront of road runners.
as it cant be healthy to gulp mile after mile of petrol(gas) or diesel fumes
kckjl wrote:
If the top Division I runner would dope, he would not beat Bernard Lagat.
So essentially, you are saying that Lalang and Cheserek are both currently doping (as they are within a few seconds either way of Lagat)
I don't understand why you continue to lie for supporting your stupid and unfair believes.
In China there were 41 international marathons last year, ALL WITH ANTIDOPING. China is, at the moment, the most clean Country in the World.
In 2014, Chinese Antidoping Agency carried out 5249 domestic controls, and for Athletics there were more than 1000 controls out of competition.
When we were in official training camps (for example, preparing Asian Games) we had the National Agency every 10 days about, and ALL THE ATHLETES IN NATIONAL TEAM WERE CONTROLLED NOT LESS THAN 12 TIMES DURING THE SEASON (somebody, such as the Olympic Champion of 20 km walking, more than 15 times).
If one athlete was positive in China (after 2007), already the Olympic Committee (Chinese) gave 4 years ban when the official international sanction was 2 years only, and the Coach of the Province had to lose his job.
I consider completely not honest who, for supporting wrong ideas, invents lies, showing he knows many things (when he has not idea of what he's speaking about) for telling whoppers, relying on the ignorance of the most part of posters.
Everytime there is something regarding African runners and doping, you show to know a lot of "secrets" that also who works every day with them doesn't know. The fact is that, instead, you continue to shoot of bullshits, because really you don't know anything.
Renato, please ignore the trolls!
what are your thoughts on Moses' performance?
Renato, please ignore the ignorant and share as much as you can. Some serious posters like myself would appreciate it. Ciao.
Renato, has Mosop regained his speed??! Is he back? He is such a gifted endurance runner. What is next?
clkj wrote:
the people losing money to dopers have no shot beating the dopers if they don't dope. learn what talent is, buddy.
That's dumb reasoning. Learn how to think buddy.
Renato Canova wrote:
If one athlete was positive in China (after 2007), already the Olympic Committee (Chinese) gave 4 years ban when the official international sanction was 2 years only, and the Coach of the Province had to lose his job.
Chinese would treat a doper (cheater) as an outcast. They would lose face in the country, and would never been able to get a good job. Their best hope for saving their future is moving, to a place like the US where few employers care about sports and doping. The US is the land of second chances.