Hillary is NUTS - businesses don't create jobs?

HRE wrote:

Paula p wrote:

She really believes that? She is done as viable pres candidate

Consumer spending creates jobs. Businesses fill the jobs consumer spending creates.

Pretty sure that consumers can't spend on products and services that aren't offered by businesses.

Stop being such an ideologue.

Trying to argue who creates jobs is like arguing how the universe started. It takes profits for businesses to hire (unless they pay in stock), but where do consumers get money from? Either credit or wages. Either way you slice it consumers need a job to get credit or wages. So what comes first? The jobs or the consumer spending? Most of you simpletons will probably have complete brain crashes attempting to grasp this concept, but the simple answer is we live in a world with dozens of different industries. If you can solve the more complex riddle then you should write a book about it and get a PhD for your efforts.

sbeefyk1 wrote:

Trying to argue who creates jobs is like arguing how the universe started.

I've been led to believe that there was some sort of "big bang".

In any case, the point made about trickle down was totally legitimate. Given real wages have stagnated over the last 30 years, while the economic growth that existed has benefited only a tiny minority of people, it is a very fair point that meaningful prosperity can only happen when we move away from a free market run only for the benefit of the privileged.

Arguing that business doesn't create jobs is truly infantile.

Originator wrote:

It's "ok" because ignorance is bliss I guess. Let me try to lay it out even simpler for you.

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Businesses create jobs.

No ignorance here. Just a higher understanding.

Without consumer demand for a product or service, there is no business.

Start a business doing something that nobody wants or needs and see how many jobs your business creates...

sbeefyk1 wrote:

Trying to argue who creates jobs is like arguing how the universe started. It takes profits for businesses to hire (unless they pay in stock), but where do consumers get money from? Either credit or wages. Either way you slice it consumers need a job to get credit or wages. So what comes first? The jobs or the consumer spending? Most of you simpletons will probably have complete brain crashes attempting to grasp this concept, but the simple answer is we live in a world with dozens of different industries. If you can solve the more complex riddle then you should write a book about it and get a PhD for your efforts.

Not sure if you think you and I disagree. But figured I would point out that I agree with you. And to think that I spent all those years getting my PhD in mathematics when all I needed to do was this.

Dang!

The real scary thing here is that half of the people in this thread pretty much defend what she says. This country is gonzo. Younger ones are pretty much too dumb to see or even care otherwise. Seriously. How could ANYONE defend what this POS has to say about ANYTHING?! Her hubby was getting blew jobs in the oval office and she stayed "married" to him/it. That says a lot more about her than it does him/it. This "woman" is a sham. She's a walking, breathing,furting, definition of the term LOSER. Thunder thighs! And how appropriate!. She "wins" the presidency in 16', and I and a lot of others are heading for a new and better place to live out our lives. We'll let you AH's who voted for her pay the bill...that can't be paid.

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BTW:15:52 on 3 weeks limited "training"..........on a fricking rowing machine!!!!!

uh oh uh oh Stinko! wrote:

... a walking, breathing,furting, definition of the term LOSER.

based on the content of your last post, I would say your above description fits you perfectly.

uh oh uh oh Stinko! wrote:

She "wins" the presidency in 16', and I and a lot of others are heading for a new and better place to live out our lives.

You people said that in 2008, and again in 2012. Nothing but a bunch of no action keyboard commandos.

Track Timer wrote:

No ignorance here. Just a higher understanding.

Without consumer demand for a product or service, there is no business.

Start a business doing something that nobody wants or needs and see how many jobs your business creates...

Exactly. And that's why Mr Obama said that the businessmen/owners "didn't create that", because it's really only because of all of us that the product even exists in the first place. I mean, we were already asking for the damn thing, eventually someone was going to step up and produce it. It's not that hard to create a new product or run a business anyway. And that person definitely shouldn't make much more than any of us do. No more than 2x, that's for sure. And he better pay his fair share, which is a much higher percentage than me, because he can afford----

HAHAHAHAHA- So fukking stupid!! Come on!!

Track Timer wrote:

Originator wrote:

It's "ok" because ignorance is bliss I guess. Let me try to lay it out even simpler for you.

...

Businesses create jobs.

No ignorance here. Just a higher understanding.

Without consumer demand for a product or service, there is no business.

Start a business doing something that nobody wants or needs and see how many jobs your business creates...

Great idea. And while you're at it, go to your local store and try to buy a product that doesn't exist. See how that works out for you.

CAN ANYONE ON HERE ACTUALLY THINK?

uh oh uh oh Stinko! wrote:

BTW:15:52 on 3 weeks limited "training"..........on a fricking rowing machine!!!!!

You are just one gigantic queef.

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

HRE wrote:

Consumer spending creates jobs. Businesses fill the jobs consumer spending creates.

Pretty sure that consumers can't spend on products and services that aren't offered by businesses.

Stop being such an ideologue.

On occasion businesses will recognize there is potential consumer spending ina situation and will begin offering a product or service in hopes people will patronize them. For example, someone sees a neighborhood with lots of houses with lawns and a lot of old people in the yards, thinks that maybe a lawn mowing/snow removal business would do well and starts one. If he's right it's consumer spending that will allow his business to survive or possibly grow. Yes, the business predates consumer spending in this case but should this guy expand his business and add jobs it will be in response to consumer spending.

In other situations, a business will have enough business that they know there's more money to be made if they expand so they create new jobs in response to the spending that's been done and in anticipation of further spending.

It takes both sides of the equation for anything to happen. To insinuate otherwise is idealogical nonsense.

Expect a roll back and accusation against someone today since this is now a top news story...

...on the other hand, we can thank our government for creating jobs like the one at the post office. well done! and good luck with your latest venture to deliver groceries.

Houston wrote:

Ughh. Polls be damned, she's not getting elected. So calculating, so disingenuous. Always a finger to the wind. Forget political leanings, just on a basic human level, it comes across as false.

random3 wrote:

Here she is...showing her brilliance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyUoCiWsTfI#t=12

It seemed to work for her husband...though to be fair, he was much more of a personality than this lifeless witch.

Are you stupid? The masses have access to $4 prescription pills and $200 40-inch LED televisions.

Really Man wrote:

random3 wrote:

Here she is...showing her brilliance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyUoCiWsTfI#t=12

I see, so a 30 second clip entirely out of context.

Wanna try again?

LOL @ Really Man

You want a different clip of her speech...here it is some more of it. It was actually worse than reported by Fox. She gets it all wrong at once:

Yo libtards, Hillary is taking her statement back.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/27/politics/hillary-clinton-job-creation/index.html?hpt=hp_t2