inthedistrict wrote:
Who dou think the shooter is?
It's Canada and harder for me to figure out but I'll go with Islamic extremist.
It is what happens when a liberal extremist gets a gun. Why do you think liberals project on to others when they spout off about making all firearms illegal?
Simple, they don't trust themselves with guns because they will go on shooting spree's like the cowardly criminals all liberals are.
Liberals are pretty much the NAZI Party of this Century.
Islamic. Religion of Peace, y'know?
wow
le veritable wrote:
Ironic, seeing as you have completely failed to understand the analogy.
Let me try to put in english a moron would understand: If liberals deserve to die because of liberal policies, then conservatives deserve to die as a result of conservative policies.
Got it?
If conservatives were so stupid that they support Islam/communism/fascism they would of course deserve the consequences of their policies.
Got it?
stop islam now wrote:
le veritable wrote:Ironic, seeing as you have completely failed to understand the analogy.
Let me try to put in english a moron would understand: If liberals deserve to die because of liberal policies, then conservatives deserve to die as a result of conservative policies.
Got it?
If conservatives were so stupid that they support Islam/communism/fascism they would of course deserve the consequences of their policies.
Got it?
Maybe you ladies should get a room.
So I have this straight - liberalism is to blame for anti-government religious folk attacking people with guns. That's an airtight argument.
Not surprisingly, you aren't bright enough to understand analogies.
You aren't saying that Muslim extremists deserve to die because of their beliefs, you are saying that Liberals do because they allow Islam. So the proper analogy is...
Liberals deserve to die because of their tolerance for Islam, whose extremists kill people, just as conservatives deserve to die because of their tolerance for gun owners, whose extremists kill people.
A little critical thinking is required, so you probably can't put the pieces together.
mopsy wrote:
So I have this straight - liberalism is to blame for anti-government religious folk attacking people with guns. That's an airtight argument.
Haha, well played.
Scarecrow wrote:
This was likely the work of some home-grown enviro-narcissist radical likely recently goaded into terrorist action through a year's worth of Islamic teachings.
Looks like I'm pretty close to being right. The killer's name is Michael Zehaf-Bideau. He was a 32 year old Canadian citizen. There is a criminal record for him in Montreal back in 2009, 5 years ago, on a minor MJ possession charge. Much more recently, it appears he converted to Islam (according to US FBI). Islamic State accounts have now posted a picture of him although they have not openly stated his attack was on their orders. Thus we see a tale of a toking narcissist turning to the rules of Islam to go straight and eventually becoming radicalized into a terrorist. BOOM.
http://thespeaker.co/ottawa-shooter-identified/https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/10/22/algerian-muslim-michael-zehaf-bibeau-behind-ottawa-attack/
spade detector wrote:
Liberals deserve to die because of their tolerance for Islam, whose extremists kill people, just as conservatives deserve to die because of their tolerance for gun owners, whose extremists kill people.
Anyone who tolerates Islam or communism and refuse to read about the evils of these evil ideologies deserves the to face the consequences of his tolerance.
Why can't you Islam apologists show me the conservative program that encourages gun owners and movie theater shooters to kill 2/3 of the world's population?
The Muslim fvcker is dead. Good.
stop islam now wrote:
spade detector wrote:Liberals deserve to die because of their tolerance for Islam, whose extremists kill people, just as conservatives deserve to die because of their tolerance for gun owners, whose extremists kill people.
Anyone who tolerates Islam or communism and refuse to read about the evils of these evil ideologies deserves the to face the consequences of his tolerance.
Why can't you Islam apologists show me the conservative program that encourages gun owners and movie theater shooters to kill 2/3 of the world's population?
Yeah, it's called religion. There are several books about it if you need further info.
Or maybe just get out for a run and chill a little bit?
The CO movie theater shooter was mentally ill, however the guy that shot up the kids in Norway a couple years back was a far-right religious nut. There's a notably fine line between the two.
stop islam now wrote:
spade detector wrote:Liberals deserve to die because of their tolerance for Islam, whose extremists kill people, just as conservatives deserve to die because of their tolerance for gun owners, whose extremists kill people.
Anyone who tolerates Islam or communism and refuse to read about the evils of these evil ideologies deserves the to face the consequences of his tolerance.
Why can't you Islam apologists show me the conservative program that encourages gun owners and movie theater shooters to kill 2/3 of the world's population?
I really don't understand how you still haven't managed to understand the analogy.
I'm actually embarassed for you.
Scarecrow wrote:
Scarecrow wrote:This was likely the work of some home-grown enviro-narcissist radical likely recently goaded into terrorist action through a year's worth of Islamic teachings.
Looks like I'm pretty close to being right. The killer's name is Michael Zehaf-Bideau. He was a 32 year old Canadian citizen. There is a criminal record for him in Montreal back in 2009, 5 years ago, on a minor MJ possession charge. Much more recently, it appears he converted to Islam (according to US FBI). Islamic State accounts have now posted a picture of him although they have not openly stated his attack was on their orders. Thus we see a tale of a toking narcissist turning to the rules of Islam to go straight and eventually becoming radicalized into a terrorist. BOOM.
http://thespeaker.co/ottawa-shooter-identified/
I'm impressed you nailed it. What's up with these recent converts in the West being so willing to kill for the "cause"?" Some of the ISIS fighters from the US killed were recent converts.
Converts make the best zealots. The need to disprove the burden of their past leads to over-reach. Classic examples span an array of beliefs and ideologies.
Scarecrow wrote:
There is a criminal record for him in Montreal back in 2009, 5 years ago, on a minor MJ possession charge.
This is what happens when you smoke pot.
Just so we are fair and balanced. ..
Dive into the history books and see how many have died on the swords of Christians in the name of faith...
Religion is the excuse we lay on extremist nut jobs. Radicals will always be radicals. Blaming Islam is the convenient scapegoat to create an US vs THEM mentality. It's easier for an unknowing and ignorant public to get behind an idea if the choice is presented as black vs white.
Alan
runningart2004 wrote:
Just so we are fair and balanced. ..
Dive into the history books and see how many have died on the swords of Christians in the name of faith...
Religion is the excuse we lay on extremist nut jobs. Radicals will always be radicals. Blaming Islam is the convenient scapegoat to create an US vs THEM mentality. It's easier for an unknowing and ignorant public to get behind an idea if the choice is presented as black vs white.
Alan
I agree with you to a great extent BUT:
Every faith, cult, and political movement could have offshoots/branches with multitudes of adherents willing to commit immoral acts. (Westboro Baptist Church, the Kahane Movement, the Wahhabis/Taliban/Hamas, etc. and most of communism)
Today, we're living in a world where Islam has developed several such offshoots and courted multitudes of adherents willing to commit murderous acts. So yes, blaming all of Islam and all Muslims is wrong. On the other hand, it is perfectly legitimate to criticize and fight the radical strains within Islam as such - as opposed to as a collection of murderous psychopaths that just happen to be Muslim.
runningart2004 wrote:
Just so we are fair and balanced. ..
Dive into the history books and see how many have died on the swords of Christians in the name of faith...
Religion is the excuse we lay on extremist nut jobs. Radicals will always be radicals. Blaming Islam is the convenient scapegoat to create an US vs THEM mentality. It's easier for an unknowing and ignorant public to get behind an idea if the choice is presented as black vs white.
Alan
No
Not all religions extremists are the same because not all religions promote the same ideas
Extreme jainists for example are more non violent the more extreme they are