Keep at it there is no doubt you have sub 50 potential.
What do you do in the fall?
I think the emphasis of your training should change from fall to spring.
Keep at it there is no doubt you have sub 50 potential.
What do you do in the fall?
I think the emphasis of your training should change from fall to spring.
yessir wrote:
You have to decide on your own what advice you want to take. There is not one way to do anything. You have to do what works. It takes a good coach to help you figure that out sometimes. Trust me my advice is not horrible. But I don't need anyone to tell me That.
Mrr82 wrote:Horrible advice. Do the exact opposite. If you're going on in 24 and closing in 28 you're going out too fast. MJ ran his best races with about a 1 sec differmce between his first and second 200. 4 secs is not good and is a common failure people do trying to run faster.
Also if running faster was as easy as going out harder and closing harder everyone would do it. Also ridiculously poor advice
Hey guys, in order to run faster, trying running the first 200 and second 200 faster! That'll give you a faster time....really????
No your advice really is bad. It's not only bad it's insane and lacking any common sense. If someone wants to run faster your advice is to run faster? Do you realize how bad that is? If a 4:10 guy wants to run a 4:00, do you tell him to try running his first half faster and then follow it up with a faster second half as well??? Really? Just run both halves faster is your advice???? Holy crap. If only that was good advice we'd all be world record holders.
400mguru wrote:
yessir wrote:You have to decide on your own what advice you want to take. There is not one way to do anything. You have to do what works. It takes a good coach to help you figure that out sometimes. Trust me my advice is not horrible. But I don't need anyone to tell me That.
No your advice really is bad. It's not only bad it's insane and lacking any common sense. If someone wants to run faster your advice is to run faster? Do you realize how bad that is? If a 4:10 guy wants to run a 4:00, do you tell him to try running his first half faster and then follow it up with a faster second half as well??? Really? Just run both halves faster is your advice???? Holy crap. If only that was good advice we'd all be world record holders.
Yea your done. Please don't ever try and compare a sprinting event to a distance event. I take it your a distance runner yourself. In my coaching career I have coached every single one of my 400 runners to a PR. On the professional level they are running her 1st 200 about 1 sec slower than their 200 PR, and a differential of about 1.5 - 2 seconds for their second 200. I would expect a high school kid to have about a 4 second differential between 1st and 2nd 200. Do some research and you will find this to be accurate. The 400 is a sprint event not a distance event you don't even split a 400. I'm not telling him to just run faster. He needs to train in a way to prepare himself to be able to run the race in the way he needs to achieve his goals.
big wrote:
Yea your done. Please don't ever try and compare a sprinting event to a distance event. I take it your a distance runner yourself. In my coaching career I have coached every single one of my 400 runners to a PR. On the professional level they are running her 1st 200 about 1 sec slower than their 200 PR, and a differential of about 1.5 - 2 seconds for their second 200. I would expect a high school kid to have about a 4 second differential between 1st and 2nd 200. Do some research and you will find this to be accurate. The 400 is a sprint event not a distance event you don't even split a 400. I'm not telling him to just run faster. He needs to train in a way to prepare himself to be able to run the race in the way he needs to achieve his goals.
Listen to big. He is correct about the 400. Almost all the top runners go out around 200m PR + 1 second and the next 200m is 1.5 to 2 seconds slower than the first. That is pretty standard sprinting knowledge.
While racing indoors the first lap might even be faster and the second slower because of the extreme importance of getting to the 200m mark first.