How many states have actually had sub 4's run in them?

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  • The Natural

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 4:50pm EDT

    What states have there not been sub 4:00 miles run in? Indoor/outdoor, any level...not "converted" for altitude, just raw times.

    Just curious cause didn't Dunbar just do the first one in Alaska (or was that the first by someone from Alaska?). Clarification on what states are left to have a sub 4:00 done within their boundaries. Specifically the southern states (maybe there's already a thread on it?)

    For sure I know (except the ones with "?s"):

    Arizona

    Arkansas

    California

    Colorado(?)

    Florida

    Illinois

    Indiana

    Iowa

    Kansas

    Michigan

    Minnesota(?)

    New York

    Ohio

    Oklahoma

    Oregon

    Texas

    Virginia

    Washington

    That's less than 20 so there's got to be more than that...

    Rojo and Wejo, feel free to chime in since you have been in the game for longer than most of us and probably know of a couple states no one else would know for sure. Thanks guys.

  • Not Patrick Gildea

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 4:52pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Tennessee has - MCDC

  • Farts to be Reckoned With

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 4:54pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Vermont and New Hampshire probably belong...Maine I think had Erik Nedeau or someone else dip under 4:00 during their old Distance Festival or some such.

    Rojo and Wejo can barely find Florida on a map so I wouldn't go treating them as sources of wisdom in this quest of yours.

  • US lags in science

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 4:55pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    here's a thread. Yes add Alaska to the list now. http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3075930

    The Natural wrote:

    What states have there not been sub 4:00 miles run in? Indoor/outdoor, any level...not "converted" for altitude, just raw times.

    Just curious cause didn't Dunbar just do the first one in Alaska (or was that the first by someone from Alaska?). Clarification on what states are left to have a sub 4:00 done within their boundaries. Specifically the southern states (maybe there's already a thread on it?)

    For sure I know (except the ones with "?s"):

    Arizona

    Arkansas

    California

    Colorado(?)

    Florida

    Illinois

    Indiana

    Iowa

    Kansas

    Michigan

    Minnesota(?)

    New York

    Ohio

    Oklahoma

    Oregon

    Texas

    Virginia

    Washington

    That's less than 20 so there's got to be more than that...

    Rojo and Wejo, feel free to chime in since you have been in the game for longer than most of us and probably know of a couple states no one else would know for sure. Thanks guys.

  • The Natural

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 4:56pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    I'm sure someone has gone under in New Mexico, even if Albuquerque is at altitude...

  • mo money mo problems

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 4:56pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Missouri (3:54 I believe is the fastest).

    Wisconsin (I remember Teg running the 1st I think).

  • The Natural

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:00pm EDT
    re: US lags in science

    Pretty sure that's the list for sub4's from people who were from that state, not that the times were actually ran within the state. Otherwise the Iowa times would be way lower cause the 80s guys killed some Drake relays there. Sick thread though

  • registered

    Ajax

    Member since 08/07/2012.

    305 posts. Last post 3 weeks ago.
    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:09pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Check Wisconsin off - Tegenkamp and Solinsky ran first sub four minute miles there in 2006.

  • registered

    Ajax

    Member since 08/07/2012.

    305 posts. Last post 3 weeks ago.
    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:11pm EDT
    re: Ajax

    Check off Rhode Island - Cory Leslie ran first sub four minute mile there in 2012.

  • future sub 4

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:17pm EDT
    re: Ajax

    What about Georgia and the Carolinas? I'd imagine more east coast states have had some but not sure...

  • Southless East

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:22pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Other than FL, zero in the southern U.S. Quite telling.

  • Consider This

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:24pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    North Carolina

    There are probably others, but Tony Waldrop and Reggie McAfee both broke 4 at the Big Four Meet in Raleigh in 1973. McAfee was the first African American to break four.

  • US lags in science

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:26pm EDT
    re: US lags in science

    On second thought, don't add AK. Dunbar ran 3:59 last summer, but that was in Portland. So if the question is "in state" then nope it hasn't happened yet.

  • Positive Contribution

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:27pm EDT
    re: future sub 4

    Pennsylvania has a few. Come one now, Penn Relays mile is sub 4 every year.

  • jim43523

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:32pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Hoka meet just put Massachusetts on the list

  • joedirt

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:37pm EDT
    re: Positive Contribution

    I don't know if Colorado had an official sub 4 mile, but Manzano ran a 3:41.8 1500 there at Big 12 a while back that would convert to sub 4.

  • in Colorado

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:42pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    No sub 4 on the track in Colorado.

    Several in downhill road races...

    4:03.99 by Rory Fraser in 2013.

    3:41.80 in the 1500 by Manzano in 2008 at Big 12 champs. Stephen Pifer was 3:43.65 in the same race.

    http://co.milesplit.com/articles/125265-rutherford-lists-colorado-soil-marks-april-6-2014#.U5osD_ldU08

  • Batman Ends

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:50pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    Will Leer ran 3:58 in Albuquerque last year so add New Mexico

  • Batman Ends

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:51pm EDT
    re: The Natural

    PS, the Hoka meet didn't add Massachusetts to the list, there have been millions of indoor sub-4s run in Boston

  • RanRan

    Anonymous Poster

    9 years ago 06/12/2014 5:57pm EDT
    re: Batman Ends

    Rhode Island has. There was a meet set up a few summers ago to put them on the list.

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