MIAC XC 2014

Didn't think Hart Horner was quite in 18:32 four mile shape, his 25:06 seems a little more reasonable.

St Olaf will win the MIAC. I mean, what's the point of all the analysis? It's not like the WIAC, Centennial, or NESCAC where it's actually competitive past 1 team.

Ricky Bobby said it best, "IF YA AIN'T FIRST, YOUR LAST!"

MEANING St Olaf is first and everyone else is last. Better chance of Adam Wood benching the bar than anyone else winning.

You're. MIAC has some smart guys so I don't want to offend them incorrect grammar. Ya Hur

AskYoMamaBoy wrote:

MIAC has some smart guys so I don't want to offend them incorrect grammar.

Never mind the fact that your sentence lacks a key preposition and is therefore grammatically incoherent.

Could Olaf be the only MIAC school to make nats this year? Carleton and UST are both out of the top 35 in the latest national rankings and no other team has a real shot at it.

On the women's side we could see four teams if Mac can make the jump

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD

I wrote this in the D3 thread in May:

St. Olaf only loses their #3, but gains a new stud in Paul Escher, who was 2nd in the 1500 in 3:48.12.

#1 Grant Wintheiser was 3rd two consecutive years and the top returning runner, with close competition from Kelleher, Padgett and Horton. 4th in 1500, 14:14 5000, I think he can make another big jump though.

#2 Jake Brown (4th in team scoring) was XC skiing through most of track, ran a 9:09 steeple and 3rd in MIAC 5000 and should be solid.

#3 Jake Campbell (21st) ran 14:37 5K and could have probably gone faster but was focusing on the 1500 (3:50.60).

#4-6 Paul Escher 3:48 1500

Calvin Lehn (46th) - Dealt with an injury in XC, MIA in track, so is the one wild card in question.

Philip Meyer (50th) ran a 31:06 10K, 4:02 1500. He will likely be a solid #4-6 guy throughout the season.

#6-7 slots are another question mark. Probably Joe Coffey (3:59) and a freshman.

So it looks like now Lehn may not be in shape to be a scorer by the end of the season. Good news is Escher is looking very promising, and can be a solid #4 or even #3 in a good race.

Jake Brown hasn't run that well in an early meet and was missing from the St. Olaf invite. Injury issues, sick? It certainly makes it more interesting to see if the team can pull it together at the end to defend the national title.

The other question is if there is a #6-7 guy who can step up to score if needed. I thought Joe Coffey with his 3:59 speed has potential, but he ran poorly at the Alumni 5K. He may have not put in enough miles over the summer but it's early season. Soph Sean Bjork was #5 guy yesterday, but would need to improve a good chunk to be a scorer in the championships and not lose. Zach Hinz and Nick Sokolowski are the top freshman with a couple others close behind. There's always a chance for one of these to surprise and make a big leap in improvement by the championships.

Updated Projections:

St Olaf: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 19 (9/14: 20) (8/31: 18) (8/28: 24)

9/21: St. Olaf hosted the St. Olaf Invite on Saturday, and fell to #3 Eau-Claire as well as DII Sioux Falls. They were without Jake Brown, who has a minor knee injury that is not expected to keep him out for long. The Oles are hopeful that Calvin Lehn may be back in time for MIAC but will certainly not be at his best if he makes it. Grant Wintheiser won the race, finishing 13 seconds ahead of Hart Hornor. Two and three were Jake Campbell and Phillip Meyer, in 25:35 and 25:38. Paul Escher was #4 in 26:17, and will need to be quicker in the postseason for Olaf to repeat. Sean Bjork was 5th for the Oles, in 26:50.

St. Thomas: 6,10,13,19,36 84 (9/14: 88) (9/7:89)

9/21 Update: St Thomas ran their first 8k (technically the race was a 5 mile) at the National Catholic Championships on Friday, finishing 4th/24 among the non-DI teams. Jacob Gehartz continued his great running, finishing fifth in a time of 25:46.Coming in after Gerhartz was Dylan Baumann (26:08) and Robby Williams (26:29).

Ben Rascher, who has the potential to be the #1 for the Tommies is still working his way back from whatever he had coming into the year, as he was well outside of the team’s top seven at the Summit Cup, then sixth with the top two sitting out at the Crown College Invite, and was up to fourth on Friday, a great sign. However, his initial prediction of a top five at MIAC seems quite high at this point in the season.

The Tommies will need to improve the position of their #5 runner at MIAC and regionals if they hope to qualify for nationals. Sam Bach was #5 at the meet, which was hosted by Notre Dame, with a 27:02 clocking. Their sixth runner was further back, with Trevor Smith running 27:34. Smith was their #3 runner at the Summit Cup. Missing was Tim Van Laarhoven, who was #2 at Crown (without top two), and #5 at the Summit Cup.

Carleton: 3,8,14,28,34 87 (9/14: 88) (9/7: 92)

9/21 Update: Carleton ran at the St. Olaf Invite Saturday, placing 5th out of 16 teams. Hart Hornor ran well finishing 3rd, 13 seconds behind Grant Wintheiser in 25:05. Freshman Jerry Cook-Gallardo ran well in his first 8k, finishing in 26:30. Cook-Gallardo looks like he may be the top freshman in the MIAC this year. Thor Laack-Veeder and Walter Edstrom finished in 32nd and 33rd, running 26:54 and 26:56.The lack of depth showed for the Knights on Saturday, as their #5 was freshman Ryan Hanselman, who ran 27:52. Luckily for Carleton, Jonah Barry looks well on his way back to racing, as he was seen working out at the meet.Ben Withboe and Joe Haase both did not race.

St. John’s: 16,21,25,29,43 134 (9/14: 133) (9/7: 102)

Hamline: 12,18,24,42,45 141 (9/14: 142) (9/7: 140)

Macalester: 17,31,37,39,50 174 (9/14: 136) (9/7: 137)

9/21 Update: Macalester had a rough outing in their first 8k of the year at Olaf, finishing 10th, 34 points behind Gustavus. Joe Giamberdino led the team, running 26:53 to place 31st. Next for the Scots was breakout Sophomore Lachlan Hinwood, who ran 27:03, a nearly two minute drop from what he ran in Northfield last year. Also putting in a solid race for the Scots was Trevor Maggart, running 27:22. There was a big gap after #3 for the Orange and Blue, with Senior and 1st time XC runner Erik Alfvin coming in 4th with a time of 28:05. Alex Ropes was 5th man in 28:16. Ross Boehme and Mike Waltman, who both ran under 27 last year had tough races, running 29:06 and 28:21 respectively. Dylan Saul , who has a PR in the low 27’s, ran 29:26.

Concordia Moorhead: 20,27,33,54,61 195 (9/14: 202) (Sept 7: 217) (Aug 31: 256)

Gustavus: 22,26,35,55,67 205 (9/14: 200) (9/7: 195)

9/21 Update: Gustavus ran their 2nd 8k of the year at St. Olaf on Saturday, finishing in 8th, 34 points ahead of Macalester. Thomas Knobbe led for the Gusties, running 26:26, within one second of his time from two weeks ago at the Dutch Invitational. Evan Jones ran 26:52, a more than twenty second improvement from his rough outing at the Dutch Invite. Paul Nordquist ran 27:00, a more than 70 second improvement from what he ran in Northfield last season. Gustavus are still missing solid four and five runners, with Carston Dammann and Matt Carlson coming in with times of 27:55 and 28:08. Freshman Marcus Speca ran 28:23, a 28 second drop from his first 8k, and could move into the top five by the end of the season. Sam Renier did not race, after running 28:46 at the Dutch Invite.

St. Mary’s: 9,23,53,58,62 205

Augsburg: 11,15,57,60,65 208 (Sept 7: 226)

Bethel: 40,49,56,74,75 294 (9/7: 321) (Aug 27: 252)

1. Grant Wintheiser, SR 24:41.9 St. Olaf

2. Jake Brown, SR 25:14 St. Olaf

3. Hart Hornor, JR 25:15 Carleton (Aug 31st: 5)

4. Jake Campbell, JR 25:23.5 St. Olaf

Matt Berens, SR 25:25 Bethel

Calvin Lehn, SO 25:30 St. Olaf

5. Phillip Meyer, JR 25:38.5 St. Olaf

6. Jacob Gehartz, SO 25:40 St. Thomas (9/14: 10th)

7. Paul Escher, SO 25:44 St. Olaf

8. Jonah Barry, JR 25:45 Carleton (9/7: 7th)

9. Aaron Haley, SR 25:53 Saint Mary's

10. Ben Rascher, SR 25:55 St. Thomas (9/14: 5th)

11. Mohamed Mohamed, SR 26:05 Augsburg (Sept 7: 11th)

12. Ryan Peterson, SR 26:13 Hamline (9/7: 9th)

13. Dylan Baumann, SO 26:15 St. Thomas (9/14: 17th)

14. Jerry Cook-Gallardo, FR 26:15 Carleton (Sept 7th: NR)

15. Abdullahi Salan, FR 26:20 Augsburg (Aug 7th: 31st)

16. Thomas Feichtinger, JR 26:21 Saint John's (9/7: 20th)

17. Joe Giamberdino, SR 26:21 Macalester (9/14: 12th)

18. Nathan Rock, JR 26:24 Hamline (9/7: 21st)

19. Robby Williams, SR 26:25 St. Thomas

20. Carl Wahlin, SO 26:27 Concordia Moorhead (Aug 28: 52) (Aug 31: 45) (Sept 7: 32)

21. Preston Zimny, JR 26:28 Saint John's (9/7: 13th)

22. Thomas Knobbe, SO 26:29 Gustavus (9/14: 32nd)

23. Jovan Newsum, SO 26:30 Saint Mary's

24. Chris Gill, SR 26:33 Hamline

25. Caleb LeClaire, JR 26:34 Saint John's (9/7: 24th)

26. Evan Jones, SO 26:36 Gustavus (9/14: 22nd)

27. Ryan Sederquist, SR 26:38 Concordia Moorhead (Aug 31st: NR)

28. Thor Laack-Veeder, SR 26:41 Carleton (9/7: 43rd)

29. Andrew Hansen, JR 26:42 St. John’s (9/7: 42nd)

30. Sean Bjork, SO 26:43 St. Olaf

31. Mike Waltman, SR 26:45 Macalester (9/14: 26th)

Ben Withbroe, SO 26:45 Carleton

32. Lachlan Hinwood, SO 26:46 Macalester

33. Matthew Lillehaugen, SO 26:47 Concordia Moorhead (Sept 7: 26th)

34. Walter Edstrom, SO 26:47 Carleton

35. Paul Nordquist, JR 26:48 Gustavus

36. Trevor Smith, SO 26:48 St. Thomas

37. Trevor Maggart, JR 26:52 Macalester

38. Kyle Wagener, JR 26:52 St. Olaf

39. Ross Boehme, SR 26:55 Macalester (9/14: 28th)

40. Thomas Ritter, JR 26:55 Bethel (9/7: 51st)

41. Jake Burr, JR 26:55 Saint John's (9/7: NR)

42. Andrew Magnuson, FR 26:55 Hamline

43. Maxwell Kuzara, SO 26:56 Saint John's (9/7: 27th)

44. Sam Bach, SO 26:57 St. Thomas

45. James Logan, SO 27:10 Hamline (9/7: 57th)

46. Joe Haase, JR 27:10 Carleton (9/7: 17th) (9/14: 36th)

Dylan Saul, SR 27:11 Macalester

47. Brian Anderson, SR 27:13 St. Thomas

48. Kyle Rossow, SR 27:13 Saint John's

49. Connor Haugen, SO 27:14 Bethel (9/7: 52nd)

50. Alex Ropes, JR 27:20 Macalester

51. Ryan Hanselman, FR 27:28 Carleton (9/7: 38th) (9/14: 51st)

52. Erik Alfvin, SR 27:35 Macalester (9/14: NR)

53. Jase Pater, JR 27:39 Saint Mary's

54. Brendan Johnson, FR 27:40 Concordia Moorhead (Aug 7: NR)

55. Carston Dammann, Fr 27:45 Gustavus

56. Harrison Hitt, SR 27:46 Bethel (9/7: 73rd)

57. Andrew McGillivary, SO 27:50 Augsburg (Aug 7: 63rd)

58. Gabe Thiel, JR 27:53 Saint Mary's

59. Alex Liu, SO 27:55 Hamline (9/7: NR)

Noah Pilgrim, FR 27:55 Concordia Moorhead

60. Ahmed Nur, SR 27:57 Augsburg

61. Erik Larson, FR 27:57 Concordia Moorhead

62. Austin O’Hare, FR 27:58 Saint Mary’s

63. Cole Konczal, JR 28:00 Hamline (9/7: 47th)

64. Henry Dobbs, SR 28:01 Concordia Moorhead

65. Chris Huss, SO 28:05 Augsburg

66. Tyler Fiebig, FR 28:08 Saint Mary’s

67. Matt Carlson, SR 28:08 Gustavus

68. Sam Renier, JR 28:15 Gustavus (9/14: 58th)

69. Luke Iverson, SR 28:16 Augsburg

70. John Benson, SO 28:19 Gustavus

71. Brandon Krogman, FR 28:26 Saint Mary’s

72. Ibrahim Barqadle, FR 28:29 Augsburg

73. Aaron Larkin, SR 28:38 Concordia Moorhead

74. David Huffman, FR 29:32 Bethel (9/7: NR)

75. Marcus Danner, FR 29:34 Bethel (9/7: NR)

James Woolley, FR 30:05 Bethel

76. Nick Lowery, FR 30:25 Bethel

77. Matt Berka, JR 30:36 Bethel

78. Eddi Flores, SO 30:55, Bethel

Rankings wrote:

Updated Projections:

St Olaf: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 19 (9/14: 20) (8/31: 18) (8/28: 24)

9/21: St. Olaf hosted the St. Olaf Invite on Saturday, and fell to #3 Eau-Claire as well as DII Sioux Falls. They were without Jake Brown, who has a minor knee injury that is not expected to keep him out for long. The Oles are hopeful that Calvin Lehn may be back in time for MIAC but will certainly not be at his best if he makes it.

looks like someone has been snoopin around like a no good rat

asics11 wrote:

looks like someone has been snoopin around like a no good rat

It's called sports reporting. It's about time that someone cares enough to find out the scoop.

St. Thomas and Macalester are both ranked higher than they should be...

Who would you change on St Thomas? Mac does seem a bit high...

I think Carleton will have the edge over St. Thomas, especially once Jonah Barry is healthy.

Here's the top freshman at 2011 Conference champs:

6 Grant Wintheiser FR St. Olaf College 25:36

13 Joe Giamberdino FR Macalester College 26:04

15 Matt Berens FR Bethel University 26:06

28 Aaron Haley FR Saint Mary's University 26:34

30 Bjorn Thompson FR St. Olaf College 26:38

34 Brian Anderson FR University Of St. Thomas 26:43

44 Ben Rascher FR University Of St. Thomas 27:14

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Here's the top freshman at 2011 Conference champs:

6 Grant Wintheiser FR St. Olaf College 25:36

13 Joe Giamberdino FR Macalester College 26:04

15 Matt Berens FR Bethel University 26:06

28 Aaron Haley FR Saint Mary's University 26:34

30 Bjorn Thompson FR St. Olaf College 26:38

34 Brian Anderson FR University Of St. Thomas 26:43

44 Ben Rascher FR University Of St. Thomas 27:14

Cool

So predicting that Senior Joe Giamberdino will run worse than he did his freshman year is kind of harsh!

17. Joe Giamberdino, SR 26:21

I know he hasn't been consistent, and as usual we're in the dark on this stuff in D3 XC. He may have been injured in the past. But if he's healthy, it doesn't seem outrageous to predict that he should improve at least a little, maybe top 10 with a 25:50.

It depends on weather of course, but there's little doubt that Wintheiser will keep things at a brisk pace for anyone who dares follow.

We'll get a better idea at Griak on Saturday when Mac, Hamline, and St. John's faceoff, although Eau Claire and La Crosse will be the best indicators

UWEC isn't at Griak this year. Don't have a box assignment nor is it on their schedule.

1st Jordan Carpenter, OshKosh, 25:56

4 Thomas Feichtinger, St John's, 26:48

7 Ryan Peterson, Hamline, 27:07

15 Nathan Rock, Hamline, 27:20

23 Abdullahi Salan, Augsburg, 27:41

25 Maxwell Kuzara, St John's, 27:53

28 Lachlan Hinwood, Mac, 28:01

29 Andrew Hanson, St John's, 28:09

30 Joe Giamberdino, Mac, 28:15

33 James Logan, Hamline, 28:19

34 Beau Girding, St John's, 28:20

35 Jake Burr, St John's, 28:21

37 Thomas Ritter, Bethel, 28:25

38 Preston Zimny, St John's, 28:28

1 La Crosse, 43

2 Oshkosh, 46

3 Wartburg, 82

4 St. John's, 124

5 Hamline, 127

6 Macalester, 184

7 River Falls, 229

8 Augsburg, 254

12 Bethel, 314

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