what percentage of single moms receive child support payments?

Those cases are still exceptional though it "happens all the time," so generalizations should not be made. Reads like an article about confused men whose emotions don't perfectly align with how courts rule. By and large, they hold people accountable to the outcomes of their decisions. Courts and law are imperfect.[/quote]

Not going to argue with people who are dependent upon the ideology like yourself, but I'm pretty sure courts don't by and large hold people accountable for the outcomes of their decisions. That's such a patently false assertion it boggles my mind. Outcomes of an individual's decisions are directly impacted/dependent upon the court's decisions so...

On a second note.. the thread got completely derailed. I can't fathom how someone couldn't realize the absurdity of today's marital framework, both social and governmental. Women have this insane incentive to marry a guy, potentially get knocked up, and then play the victim all the way to the bank. Our courts and mainstream "culture" implicitly condone this exploitation of men. Now I know there are plenty of women out there who aren't bad people and who realize that doing that is completely unfair to the children and likely won't generate any real genuine happiness for anyone. But, are we actually going to pretend there aren't a significant number of people in this country who don't use consciousness merely for the manifestation of subconscious desire? Isn't the whole idea of laws to protect us from people like that? not encourage them?

moral of the story: don't have kids and if you do, have them when married and don't get divorced

Uhh yeah wake up wrote:

...Women have this insane incentive to marry a guy, potentially get knocked up, and then play the victim all the way to the bank. Our courts and mainstream "culture" implicitly condone this exploitation of men.

Presumably you are aware that, statistically speaking, single men are better off than single women. And yet there is this grand conspiracy, on a societal and governmental basis, that is exploiting and victimizing men?

Hmmm...something about that just does not add up.

Doesn't matter who filed for divorce in terms of child support and who pays what

Doesn't matter what reason

Doesn't matter if they were ever married

Yes, paternity matters so get a DNA test if one party is contesting

Doesn't matter who did most of the work

Child support goes to support the children. It's not alimony. Both parents are supposed to support the children either by being the custodial parent or the one who sends a monthly check. That's the way it works.

Exactly - don't have 'em unless you are willing to support them. If you are having sex then be prepared to either support a baby, give it up for adoption or have an abortion. If you are the guy, take responsibility and don't badmouth the woman. It takes two.

I have to laugh: women are excoriated for having abortions and if they keep the child they are excoriated for pursuing the biological father for support if he's not on the scene. Something doesn't add up here.

Hey guys, make up your minds! And if you can't and don't want to deal then don't badmouth the women who are left holding the results of your "incredible" contribution.