It is safe to say that DATHAN RITZENHEIN has been tragically underdeveloped in the marathon under Alberto Salazar.
This is guy with a 12:56 and a 60-flat half marathon in 2009 off of Brad Hudson's training (went to Salazar in summer 2009), followed by years of stagnation on the track. His 27:22 10,000 best came in a championship race that same year; he is (or was) certainly capable of sub-27.
Ritz had a 2:10:00 marathon before he went to Salazar, and following three years of no PRs at any distance after that great 2009 season, Salazar finally got him to 2:07:47 in Chicago. This is still a MASSIVE UNDERPERFORMANCE for his ability, and he somehow went backward in 2013 with his only marathon being a full two minutes slower in good conditions on the same course (2:09:45).
What would Ritz be doing for the marathon with YOU as coach?
The McMillan calculator projects a 59:53 half and a 2:06:01 marathon from a 12:56 5,000 so I think that under 2:06 is very reasonable.
I'd have him around 2:05:20.
if YOU were coaching Ritz, what would his marathon time be?
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2:15 - i don't think the pot would help at that level
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Are you posting this from the treatment center or just killing time until they come and get you?
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Maybe Ritz is a natural 5k guy and is training for the wrong distance? The big reason why he has "only" run a 2:07:47 is because he's always getting injured or having injury scares.
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In one race Ritz was closing on Bekele in the last lap. That distance is his his true calling.
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DNF
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rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
The McMillan calculator projects a 59:53 half and a 2:06:01 marathon from a 12:56 5,000 so I think that under 2:06 is very reasonable.
I'd have him around 2:05:20.
That's pathetic. The Hardloperrekenmachine predicts a 2:01. With my gigantic IQ it's reasonable I would be able to get him to approach the first sub-2 hour marathon. -
DNS. I'd have him doing 150+ MPW on the 'crete.
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None.
I'd have him in the 3K/5K events that he's good at.
Marathons are for old fart losers with 26.2 stickers. -
coach d wrote:
None.
I'd have him in the 3K/5K events that he's good at.
Those are his best events in time trials, but good luck getting him to run the 53-second 400 he needs to win anything. -
DNS.
I'd have him playing linebacker in the NFL -
time for bye-bye wrote:
Are you posting this from the treatment center or just killing time until they come and get you?
I mean that was funny as I literally laughed out loud!
My pick for the 2014 comical post of the year! -
2:07.
BTW off topic but don't want to start a new thread:
Does a Rupp certified saladbar have extra sneeze-guards, soup at 200F, and change the salad tongs after every customer? -
No doubt I could have him run a 2:54.
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Prison. have him rape chicks
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You have to admire -- no, revere -- a troll who announces that he's trolling virtually every time out, sticks to essentially the same topic or close relatives of it, never loses his cool, and STILL gets numerous agitated responses every time. Failing that, he generates some clever or plain hilarious responses. Does he really smoke jibbah? If he does I'll gladly from him an ounce if he promises to smoke up before visiting the board.
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2:20. Maybe a little faster if I asked for Alberto's help.
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2 hours flat, baby. and that's real talk.
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If I "coached" him I'd tell him(or any serious marathoner for that matter) to do:
20 miles a day, run twice a day every day except Sunday(long run), speed twice a week of 8-12x400 at 5k pace and 4-6x800 at 5k pace, so basically what Frank Shorter did. And then any details beyond that just needs to be an adult and figure it out himself. -
I would have him running the first 22 miles at sub 2 hour pace and see if he can hold on. Probably about 2:14
