kenyan goat farmers have race with cheetahs and WIN

Bad Wigins wrote:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/physics/animal-kingdom-top-marathon-runners-pronghorn-antelope#slide-5

"Pronghorn Antelopes, on the other hand, can maintain speeds of 60 mph for miles at a time."

You are wise to veil your womanly, unregistered presence as you embarrass yourself in the face of well-referenced facts.

Popular Mechanics as a reference for the running abilities of wild animals? Seriously?

This wouldn't happen to be the same Popular Mechanics that ON THE VERY SAME PAGE where they say "can maintain speeds of 60 mph for miles at a time." they also plainly state "Max Speed: 55 MPH", would it?

Not to mention "Best/Average speed for 20+ miles: 30 MPH"...at the same time that you are claiming: "Taking into account they have to stop and rest, that's about 1000 miles (in 24 hours), realistically, for a well-trained pronghorn." which would be slightly north of 40 MPH for 1000 miles!!!

OK, so you are just trolling. Nobody could be that stupid.

Well done.

I bump this so that everybody can have a good laugh at BW's stupidities.

ukathleticscoach wrote:Perhaps Ventolin can run the figures, surely Bolt could jog 4 miles at 10 min mile pace. What could a cheetah jog 4 miles in

cheetahs are sprint guys, i believe 400/500m is their best distance & struggle by 1/2 mile

interestingly, if we offer them ~ 50mph for 400m & ~ 30mph for 800, we get some interesting estimates if they coud run all the distances "perfectly"

for

17.0 for 400m / 60.0 for 800 ->

1500m : 2'36.8

3000m : 6'51.0

5000m : 13'24.7

10000m : 32'14.3

very prelim estimate is that a 13'20+ guy shoud catch the cheetah ( that is of course assuming cheetah knows it's a 5k )

Gonna Have to Call BS wrote:

OK, so you are just trolling. Nobody could be that stupid.

Well done.

every cheetah thread needs a good pronghorn debate.

Mister Science wrote:

No, you guys got it all wrong. This proves again the Kenyan's can't sprint.

the kenyan nr for 400 is 44.18 ( much faster than euro record ) run in '92 games

there is plenty of low-44 talent

( perhaps even 44-flat as kitur ran pretty much like a 800 guy trying the 400 )

in kenya except the 400 is an event they have given up on as the "foreign" coaches/managers have no interest in developing kenyan 400 talent ( they woud need to hire sprint coaches/expensive weight-rooms/etc ) & just want 800 - 10k guys & preferably M runners

Runthemhillsboy wrote:This happened in the north eastern part of kenya which is not known for running at all. There has not been a single kenyan runner come from this region.

& the only guy ever from rudisha's tribe of note prior was his pa

& tergat's tribe hadn't produced anyone we'd heard of prior to him

ventolin^3 wrote:

Runthemhillsboy wrote:This happened in the north eastern part of kenya which is not known for running at all. There has not been a single kenyan runner come from this region.

& the only guy ever from rudisha's tribe of note prior was his pa

& tergat's tribe hadn't produced anyone we'd heard of prior to him

Do you guys think these tribes inbreed?

Gonna Have to Call BS wrote:

J.R. wrote:

That's amazing if true.

But it isn't true. Not even close.

Where are all you pronghorn fanboys getting your 'facts' from.

Pronghorns may be able to do 60 MPH for a full sprint - perhaps 30 seconds. They can also go around 40 -45 MPH for a few hours.

60 MPH for 4 hours? Utter drivel!

I do actually agree with you. I'd be highly surprised if that's true. 40-45 mph sounds more reasonable to me : still amazing. The post I made earlier is most likely incorrect; that's the speed/distance I've most commonly heard given for them, but I'd be more than surprised if it's accurate.

The greater point I was making is that this incredible endurance doesn't seem to me, at all, to be an evolutionary response to a predator like a cheetah.

Wtfunny wrote:

Gonna Have to Call BS wrote:

But it isn't true. Not even close.

Where are all you pronghorn fanboys getting your 'facts' from.

Pronghorns may be able to do 60 MPH for a full sprint - perhaps 30 seconds. They can also go around 40 -45 MPH for a few hours.

60 MPH for 4 hours? Utter drivel!

I do actually agree with you. I'd be highly surprised if that's true. 40-45 mph sounds more reasonable to me : still amazing. The post I made earlier is most likely incorrect; that's the speed/distance I've most commonly heard given for them, but I'd be more than surprised if it's accurate.

The greater point I was making is that this incredible endurance doesn't seem to me, at all, to be an evolutionary response to a predator like a cheetah.

Agreed.

Wolves or even coyotes would be more likely culprits.