NCAA Declares BYU's Jared Ward Ineligible becaus of Fun Run

Talking about Mormons - anyone got a nude picture of Marie Osmond?

Dudes like 26 anyways, so he's already in violation.

So people who are reading this are just dumb because they are putting their prejudices about the LDS church and the age of BYU athletes in front of the true story here. If you would actually read this article he is trying to get a fourth year. not a 5th year. He has never redshirted. The NCAA simply took a year away from him. He deserves the right to run. Who cares about his age. The two years that he took off for his mission he stops training completely. Though he may be 24 years old he technically is 22 in training. He gained no physiological advantage for taking two years off. People are just haters and uneducated about what they are actually doing for those two years. I would like to see them stop running completely for two years and then try to come back from that. It is a lot harder than just running through it. And if they get so much of an advantage why are there not more people doing it? Get educated people. I am sure Ward is a good kid. Why does he deserve to be punished for this. If he was running for your schools you would want him to get his fourth year (you cant deny that). Also, BYU is not the only school that has older athletes. Many schools have them. One school as a 45 year old kicker. Should he loose his eligibility. I bet he played in many rec football games before becoming an NCAA kicker. Don't be unfair to Ward.

3rd observer wrote:

The NCAA is a joke

This is news?

Indeed. It's totally a joke, a scam, and has been for 40 years or more.

I think unless you have been in the US Military, you should have to start and complete your NCAA sports eligibility by age 23.

--And yes even if that meant King Ches only gets 3 years to compete.

My high school had a guy who quietly flunked his senior year, and came back at age 19 and some genius decided to let him play on the varsity football team again.

Last game of the season the opponents head coach figures it out, reports it, and eventually the whole season was vacated and turned into L's.

The dude in Texas who made the team after doing volunteer work in Africa, and then joining the US military... He's earned being 28 and competing in NCAA football.

It is a myth that Mormons have to do a 2 year mission before college or even at all.

Steve Young never did a mission.

The NCAA doesn't care about rules creating fairness, they care about rules that maximize making money whether that is through TV rights, or any other way.

Maybe NCAA sports should be abolished.

It's certainly a mess.

Are you honestly that naive to believe that during this 2-year mission, this top notch athlete just simply took off this whole time without training at all. Come man, I found that pretty hard to buy. And age does matter, those extra few years of training can make a huge difference. It's great that they do these mission trips, more power to them do, but it is an unfair advantage and they should lose eligibility if they are too old.

Lets get to the real topic at hand. The man has a kid? He should be declared ineligible by the University for clearly having sex! If Davies, a basketball player, then Ward, an xc runner, should most definitely be suspended fair is fair after all.

Old-Guy wrote:

Are you honestly that naive to believe that during this 2-year mission, this top notch athlete just simply took off this whole time without training at all. Come man, I found that pretty hard to buy. And age does matter, those extra few years of training can make a huge difference. It's great that they do these mission trips, more power to them do, but it is an unfair advantage and they should lose eligibility if they are too old.

I can't speak for everyone, but I served an LDS mission and tried to walk on at BYU afterwards. I suppose I have a little better insight than 99% of you.

Missionaries get 30 minutes a day to exercise. Theoretically, under ideal conditions you could get 4-5 miles a day, 6 days a week. No Sundays, obviously.

Treadmills are generally out of the question. Missionaries don't get gym memberships. I served my mission in a poor area in South America. No treadmills.

The REALITY is that maybe 1 in 10 companions will run with you, and even then they are slow and out-of-shape. In 2 years I ran a grand total of 72 miles, and the fastest companion I had could bang out 8 minute miles. There comes a point where you realize that running once a week really isn't doing anything for you.

When I tried out for the team, most of the guys had similar experiences.

Dr. Turd wrote:

Talking about Mormons - anyone got a nude picture of Marie Osmond?

only the bubble kind allowed.

byu grad wrote:

I've asked this before and I'll ask it now:

What are the physiological changes that occur between the ages 23 to 25 that bestow an advantage to BYU athletes?

Easy. Two extra years of aerobic development idiot. This dude is too old. I have no problem with him not running.

This is absurd. This maims any chance we have at competing in the championships. As for the mission making BYU students older, you have to keep in mind that we don't do any running on the mission. Eyestone just does a great job rehabbing the runners after it.

There should be no preferential treatment, however the main thing is there should be no age restrictions.

Whether someone is 21 or 29 makes no difference; in fact there are probably many faster 21 year olds than 29 year olds.

SO I have read through the whole thread and it is OBVIOUS that NOBODY has any common sense anymore.

The Ncaa is comprised of (theoretically) some of the most educated people in the United States yet can't figure out an appropriate punishment for a rules violation.

It's pretty clear the kid ran a race and it's also pretty clear the race was not competitive at the level he would be competing at NCAA D1. It is also pretty clear the rule was put in to restrict someone from gaining an unfair advantage through the participation of competitive races over a period of time.

Based on those facts, it is clear the kid technically violated the rule but gained no competitive advantage.

I rule a suspension of one meet which is equal to the one race he competed in.

Is that the same Brigham Young University that is considered the Harvard University of Utah County, Utah?

Interesting... Do you have to train with your companion though?

If these missions ended in September, does that mean you essentially show up at the beginning of the year on zero training?

The judge and jury wrote:

I rule a suspension of one meet which is equal to the one race he competed in.

Your rule is only 1% as stupid as the actual ruling, but it's still 1% stupid.

OSU's. 2nd Kenyan, Kirubu lied about his age and is 27, is that fair!

Or their other old as balls Kenyans.

I'm find with Ward not running, but everyone saying he has two years advantage and failed to look at OSU, CRAZY.

Also, their whole top 5 is foreign, and even their youvest foreigner of the bunch, took A WHOLE year after college to train with his club, then went to OSU.

BYU Student wrote:

This is absurd. This maims any chance we have at competing in the championships. As for the mission making BYU students older, you have to keep in mind that we don't do any running on the mission. Eyestone just does a great job rehabbing the runners after it.

Here's an idea: stop complaining, grow a pair, and quit your false religion. Rather than spending two years attempting to indoctrinate more hapless folks with your bigoted drivel, do something useful with your life.

Look at it this wat wrote:

OSU's. 2nd Kenyan, Kirubu lied about his age and is 27, is that fair!

Or their other old as balls Kenyans.

I'm find with Ward not running, but everyone saying he has two years advantage and failed to look at OSU, CRAZY.

Also, their whole top 5 is foreign, and even their youvest foreigner of the bunch, took A WHOLE year after college to train with his club, then went to OSU.

Guys, the NCAA rule is that you get one year after graduating HS and then your clock starts if you compete. This is where I believe the main issue is. Has nothing to do with the type of race, the eligibility clock started Fall 2009. The rule was put in place in attempt to control age a bit in the NCAA, mostly Kenyans and all the other foreigners everyone hates. If they let Ward compete, it will set a precedent that would likely allow Kenyans, who many don't take SATs until after HS, some don't start running until then, to then come to the NCAA as older freshmen, even if they've been competing in time trials or local races. I can't imagine the vitriol after this happens.

You could also then have a situation where coaches can tell recruits to sit a year and train and save a scholarship,and then have a scholarship the next year.

The new rule is normally supposed to sit you your first year, but since Ward was already competing, it comes in the final year apparently.

Unfortunately, the fact that the race was low key does not matter, and sure, it seems unfair to this guy, but there are dozens of Kenyan guys getting denied for running in a time trial. Since the rule is supposed to be that you sit your first year, those kids lose their scholarship opportunity, because no one is going to waste a scholarship on a kid that needs to sit a year.

Look at it this wat wrote:

OSU's. 2nd Kenyan, Kirubu lied about his age and is 27, is that fair!

Or their other old as balls Kenyans.

I'm find with Ward not running, but everyone saying he has two years advantage and failed to look at OSU, CRAZY.

Also, their whole top 5 is foreign , and even their youvest foreigner of the bunch, took A WHOLE year after college to train with his club, then went to OSU.

This is not true. The facts have been posted before on Letsrun but I'm sure you won't let facts get in the way of your racist rantings. Of course we wouldn't expect anything different from Mormons.