Coleen De Rueck, 49, and Alana Hadley, 16, qualify for Olympic Trials at Indianapolis Monumental Marathon

14y105d 2:33:08 Xin Wei (CHN) 07 Jul 1988 20 Oct 2002 Beijing CHN

15y213d 2:29:41 Mei-yu Shen (CHN) 21 Mar 1987 20 Oct 2002 Beijing CHN

16y328d 2:31:51 Li-nan Wang (CHN) 26 Nov 1985 20 Oct 2002 Beijing CHN

17y319d 2:23:37 Min Liu (CHN) 29 Nov 1983 14 OCt 2001 Beijing CHN

18y 1d 2:22:38 Ying-ying Zhang (CHN) 04 Jan 1990 05 Jan 2008 Xiamen CHN

Hmmmm.. does anyone besides me call BS on the female teen records?

winners get headlines! what's wrong with you? not two women that qualified for the Olympic trials that will never have an impact in that race.

> What are the American age group records for 49 and 16?

De Reuck already holds the American age group record for 45-49:

2:30:51

The 50-54 record is 2:37:36

http://www.usatf.org/statistics/records/byEvent.asp?division=american&location=road&age=masters&distance=42.195&distanceUnits=km&distanceType=run

De Reuck's time today: 2:39:22

For the non-Masters American age-group or single age records, these were available on

www.runningusa.org

until about 2008.

They are gone now, and are not on

www.archive.org

because they were not static pages.

The best I can find at present is a graph

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Ealanjones/FemaleMar2010.jpg

from

http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Ealanjones/AgeGrade.html

Using the graph in my previous post,

it looks like the US Women's age 16 record is the same as

the US High School record:

Marathon 2:34:24 Cathy O'Brien (Dover, New Hampshire) Olympia, Washington 5/12/84

from

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/records/outdoor/women/hs_outdoor_records.html

The wikipedia page for her confirms she was 16 at the time.

And her name was Cathy Schiro at that time, as noted earlier.

bobs ur uncle wrote:

Wow the half was pretty deep.

Any thoughts on running a PR on this course compared to Philly? Thinking about my 1st marathon next year but feel I would need some people to run with. I am an older wannabee and would hope for a sub 2:33, but just not much company in that range. Do you think going to somewhere like Philly or going 4 wks earlier and doing Chi Town would give an old first timer a better shot at hitting a time.

You would be able to pace off of half runners through 7 miles. From 7 miles to the half mark it could get pretty lonely, but the second half of this course runs VERY fast. Assuming the wind is on your side, it is faster than Chicago. Obvious advantage to Chicago at least is the crowd support.

Still in my opinion the Monumental course is fast enough to make up for the lack of support in certain parts of the course.

Collen's Mark is a pending SINGLE-AGE US Record (F49). The current record is 2:51:19.

Alana's mark is 7 minutes off Cathy's junior record and F16 single-age record.

C'mom wrote:

winners get headlines! what's wrong with you? not two women that qualified for the Olympic trials that will never have an impact in that race.

What's wrong with YOU? A 49 y.o. just ran 2:39 to win and break the course record- that's far more impressive than a 2:16 no name Kenyan, whom they couldn't give a hoot about even listing his name. For once I'd like to see an impressive woman get the major headline.

only within the wall wrote:

14y105d 2:33:08 Xin Wei (CHN) 07 Jul 1988 20 Oct 2002 Beijing CHN

15y213d 2:29:41 Mei-yu Shen (CHN) 21 Mar 1987 20 Oct 2002 Beijing CHN

16y328d 2:31:51 Li-nan Wang (CHN) 26 Nov 1985 20 Oct 2002 Beijing CHN

17y319d 2:23:37 Min Liu (CHN) 29 Nov 1983 14 OCt 2001 Beijing CHN

18y 1d 2:22:38 Ying-ying Zhang (CHN) 04 Jan 1990 05 Jan 2008 Xiamen CHN

Hmmmm.. does anyone besides me call BS on the female teen records?

safe to say these probably aren't legit

Colleen and her husband are the best one two punch for USA LDR. They are both a class act, and Colleen is a great example of how someone can be successfull in ldr without drugs or cheating.

> Collen's Mark is a pending SINGLE-AGE US Record (F49). The current record is 2:51:19.

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5469034&page=2#ixzz2jdxbtm4e

Are these single age records online somewhere?

I tried to find them, but had no luck (see my posts above).

Consider This wrote:

What I have something against is you jumping on a single thread pointing out a nice result and saying that it wasn't worth a mention because they didn't scare the world record.

OK, I expect you to be leading the bandwagon of rah-rah-rahs whenever an American man runs 2:12 or an American women runs 2:24. 9 minutes off the WR is nice but not especially noteworthy regardless of the age group.

troof be told wrote:

OK, I expect you to be leading the bandwagon of rah-rah-rahs whenever an American man runs 2:12 or an American women runs 2:24. 9 minutes off the WR is nice but not especially noteworthy regardless of the age group.

Such a strong point... I mean, after all, Shalane & Kara haven't been noted for any of their marathon performances.

nah, dude, you are just a speed beast.

flagjr wrote:

I've run a faster 5K than Hadley, but her marathon today is 10+ minutes faster than me. She's a distance beast!

This thread is on its third page and nobody has come on here to assert that De Reuck isn't really an American? Meb sure doesn't get that kind of treatment.

bobs ur uncle wrote:

Any thoughts on running a PR on this course compared to Philly? Thinking about my 1st marathon next year

I think your chances of a getting a PR in your first marathon are pretty good either way.

I can't believe there is not any chatter that this girl is only 16 and ran a marathon. She is very talented and has a bright future. Seems really early to me to be running a marathon.

I can't believe there is not any chatter that this girl is only 16 and ran a marathon. She is very talented and has a bright future. Seems really early to me to be running a marathon.