PAUL SHORT SHUT DOWN

83 feels like 83 is hardly a heat wave. Athletes, coaches, and parents failed to prepare properly, end of story.

I struggled in the heat with my own run today. We are far enough into fall that we've lost some of our heat acclimation build over summer.

Dunce wrote:

83 feels like 83 is hardly a heat wave. Athletes, coaches, and parents failed to prepare properly, end of story.

Agreed. It's warm, but it's certainly no warmer than you'd see at early season meets in late August or early September. Yes, maybe some of the acclimation has worn off over the past few weeks, but if people are actually getting sick and being taken to the hospital, with a temp in the mid 80s, that's purely not being prepared (e.g., drink a lot of water, stay out of the sun).

I can see Bernie Montoya ROFL at this. A few years ago they had the Mt. Sac XC Invitational with temps about 103F. They cut the non-sweepstakes races to 2 miles, but they still ran them all. Yesterday I was out there doing 15X150m sprints. That's about a mile of sprinting at about 3:10 mile pace on grass with short rest, and the high temperature was 91 degrees. There was a college womens soccer game going on at the same time. But this is California, where men are MEN and women are WOMEN.

No wonder all the real athletes are in California and Texas. The rest of the country is a bunch of wimps.

Heat index is 90.

Its still not the worst its ever been.

I grew up in Houston and have been living out here in PA and took my daughters to a soccer game today with only seeing like 80 on the dashboard. Let's just say we are wasted. It was incredible hot, a dry hot, which blindsided us. Definitely something to acclimatization and losing it all. Hell, I was running high-14s in the summer, got down to mid-14s a couple of weeks ago, and today felt like a 15-min guy.

Ambulances don't lie.

Who's actually being taken to the hospital over 80 degree heat? Is it top runners pushing themselves to great performances, or is it stragglers who use the sport as a social club?

Oh do shut up.

It is very uncomfortable in the mid Atlantic though. No doubt about that.

It was warm there. No shade and plenty of people in the top 50 and others needing attention today. Sweat was pouring off people who were just spectating, let alone the runners. It felt like August.

Yo, Coach D, I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you finish But California has some of the girliest men of all time.

No it was bad. Especially with so many runners crammed onto the course it feels even hotter. Plus the humidity didn't help at all. It felt more like 95 than 80. In the Women's Gold race there were bodies all over the place and we aren't talking about "stragglers." I think nova who placed third as a team had two girls pass out right before the finish and their seventh girl ran like 24:10.

I heard over 70 people were taken to the hospital just from the college portion of the meet. The people working the water coolers were exceptionally slow at refilling them.

3:10 mile pace is 17.7 per 150m

You did 15 at this pace "with short rest, on grass"??!

Tyson Gay couldn't do your workout, but you can...

That sounds hot.

They made an announcement before the start of the Women's Brown that said, "Runners in Boxes 1-6 are going to have to avoid the ambulances that are on the left hand side of the opening portion, they aren't moving before the start of the race but will be right afterwards."

I do believe that part of this is a coaching/athlete issue, but even yesterday's forecast called for 78-81 and it was much hotter.

Passing out is just your body saying it needs a little more recovery. No need to bus off to the hospital for that.

Every runner should be doing heat training at all times during the year. They should have a mandatory 10 miler on the treadmill at 80° once a week to keep acclimated if it isn't that warm outside. I don't think they should turn into gallon jug guy or gallon jug girl, but you have to keep hydrated at all times to maximize training and racing.

This is why athletes ran naked in ancient Greece.

Could running naked potentially save a life from heat stroke?

There were 24 athletes taken to the hospital from the college races. Apparently they will not be refunding HS race entrants either, which will probably do a number on the field for next year. Some of those schools paid 6/700 dollars between 2 teams

There were 24 athletes taken to the hospital from the college races. Apparently they will not be refunding HS race entrants either, which will probably do a number on the field for next year. Some of those schools paid 6/700 dollars between 2 teams