Symmonds Over Wheating in 800m in Rovereto 1:44.75 to 1:46.63

Wheating's making progress

Symmonds is on a roll.

yyy wrote:

Symmonds is on a roll.

He is on a roll. Kudos to him. But was there any real competition in this race? I mean, Wheating in 3rd doesn't say much for the quality of the event.

Later this week I suppose he will have a much better test. If he wins and comes in around 1:43 I will be impressed. Even if he doesn't win I would be impressed with a 1:43.0. If he comes away with another 1:44.75 I'm not sure that it is much to brag about for a guy at Symmonds' level.

A winning race in 1:44 is always good.

Any streak of wins on the pro circuit is always good.

Let me guess, wheating stayed at the back the entire race, then made a mad dash the last 150 to place 2-4, sparking the fanboys into a woulda coulda shoulda feeding frenzy...

Could be Added wrote:

yyy wrote:

Symmonds is on a roll.

He is on a roll. Kudos to him. But was there any real competition in this race? I mean, Wheating in 3rd doesn't say much for the quality of the event.

Later this week I suppose he will have a much better test. If he wins and comes in around 1:43 I will be impressed. Even if he doesn't win I would be impressed with a 1:43.0. If he comes away with another 1:44.75 I'm not sure that it is much to brag about for a guy at Symmonds' level.

For a guy at Symmonds' level, winning IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT than running a 1:43.0.

Mid 1:46 here and a good place, without seeing some negative split 26 last 200, this looks like some progress, still far off his 800m pr and I'd like to see him get into a good 1500m race still. Otherwise, getting some encouraging results, staying healthy, and getting in a very strong off season is about all we can hope for Wheating now.

This is great for Symmonds. We complain the athletes don't race enough and get visibility, but here Symmonds is out doing it. Good for him. The top 5 guys on the 800m scene might fear Rudisha because of his dominance at major events, but all the guys ranked 5-50 will have to fear a guy like Symmonds showing up at all the races and winning. I like the idea of Symmonds being the guy the rest of the world fears seeing show up to a meet.

joho wrote:

Could be Added wrote:

He is on a roll. Kudos to him. But was there any real competition in this race? I mean, Wheating in 3rd doesn't say much for the quality of the event.

Later this week I suppose he will have a much better test. If he wins and comes in around 1:43 I will be impressed. Even if he doesn't win I would be impressed with a 1:43.0. If he comes away with another 1:44.75 I'm not sure that it is much to brag about for a guy at Symmonds' level.

For a guy at Symmonds' level, winning IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT than running a 1:43.0.

In general I agree with you. Wins are more important than PRs. Championships trump national/world records.

All I am saying is that if the competition isn't up to snuff (which it does not look like it was here) then a win isn't really worth much at all. Further, a win next weekend in a similar time (unless conditions are atrocious) will simply mean that everyone is winding down their season - so big whip-de-coo.

On the other hand, a win in 1:43.0 or even a second place in that same time will actually be more impressive than a slow win (again, because of the stage of the season in a championship year as well as who is competing and who is not).

Could be Added wrote:

joho wrote:

For a guy at Symmonds' level, winning IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT than running a 1:43.0.

In general I agree with you. Wins are more important than PRs. Championships trump national/world records.

All I am saying is that if the competition isn't up to snuff (which it does not look like it was here) then a win isn't really worth much at all. Further, a win next weekend in a similar time (unless conditions are atrocious) will simply mean that everyone is winding down their season - so big whip-de-coo.

On the other hand, a win in 1:43.0 or even a second place in that same time will actually be more impressive than a slow win (again, because of the stage of the season in a championship year as well as who is competing and who is not).

You're a douche

Agreed

Could be Added wrote:

Championships trump national/world records.

That's why everyone talks about Schumann more than Kipketer. Oh, wait...

DURRRRRR wrote:

Could be Added wrote:

In general I agree with you. Wins are more important than PRs. Championships trump national/world records.

All I am saying is that if the competition isn't up to snuff (which it does not look like it was here) then a win isn't really worth much at all. Further, a win next weekend in a similar time (unless conditions are atrocious) will simply mean that everyone is winding down their season - so big whip-de-coo.

On the other hand, a win in 1:43.0 or even a second place in that same time will actually be more impressive than a slow win (again, because of the stage of the season in a championship year as well as who is competing and who is not).

You're a douche

You appear to be an intellectual giant.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Could be Added wrote:

Championships trump national/world records.

That's why everyone talks about Schumann more than Kipketer. Oh, wait...

Kipketer has won several World Championships to add to his world records.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Could be Added wrote:

Championships trump national/world records.

That's why everyone talks about Schumann more than Kipketer. Oh, wait...

Is being monumentally stupid your occupation or just a hobby of yours?