18 year old Ismael Kirui beat Haile Gebrselassie in the 1993 worlds 5000,
18 year old Ismael Kirui beat Haile Gebrselassie in the 1993 worlds 5000,
You mean this doesn't work just as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfw9IhDjkkw
And he almost did it a second time.
This is how you beat Mo Farah and anyone else.
Run faster from point A to point B.
coach d wrote:
You mean this doesn't work just as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfw9IhDjkkwAnd he almost did it a second time.
No that doesn't work. You cant beat Mo in the 5000 like Geb got beat by beating Mo in the 10000. They are two different races. :-)
Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.
In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.
In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.
If you did it in the 1500, you'd lose by two seconds.
Wow what a great race. Canova was right when he said Distance races have gotten more and more boring over the years at the Olympics/World Championships
Geb was also young and a few years before his prime, Farah is in his prime. It would have been nice to see a young Kenyan hammer the pace but there aren't any around now.
Coach wrote:
Geb was also young and a few years before his prime, Farah is in his prime. It would have been nice to see a young Kenyan hammer the pace but there aren't any around now.
Well, he certainly wasn't young and a few years before his prime in 96 when Daniel Komen clobbered him. Mo just doesn't happen to have a 20 yr old Daniel Komen to run against these days.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.
No you won't. You might beat him but you will not come close to even "almost" lapping him.
All the discussion about tactics on how to beat Farah is irrelevant. You can be the best tactician in the world, if you don't have the ability and fitness those supreme tactics will not beat Farah. He got really really luck to come into his prime when all the best of the best have passed theirs. Sihine, Bekele, Geb, Tergat, El Guerrouji, Komen, and a handful of other top guys from the late 90's to early 2000's would show you how to beat Farah.
Conventional wisdom says the stakes are higher now than in the early 90's. And the perceived risk of taking it out 12:50 pace is greater than the risk of sitting and kicking.
How about this?
Bad Wigins wrote:
Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.
In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.
idiot, we've been through this
no
Bekele was a dopped up cheater.
CPJ wrote:
How about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3csSVopAb0
Bekele Olympic 5000m '08, that's one of my favorite races.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Run 4 seconds off the WR in any championship and you will lap Mo Farah. Almost.
In the 10000 you almost certainly would lap him.
Ventolin 4 wrote:
idiot, we've been through this
no
Moscow bell split was 12:32. Yes, I think 12:41 would be pretty damn close to lapping that. And I expect 26:20 would have lapped 26:27.
Have you ever noticed how rude you are? You are nothing but piss and venom.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Moscow bell split was 12:32. Yes, I think 12:41 would be pretty damn close to lapping that. And I expect 26:20 would have lapped 26:27.
Have you ever noticed how rude you are? You are nothing but piss and venom.
wtf is wrong with you?
you think farah would run the same pace if someone else was running at or close to wr pace?
so pretty please, with sugar on top... stop f@#%ing posting.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Have you ever noticed how rude you are? You are nothing but piss and venom.
No he's not. The rest of us are agreeing with him. Please stop it.
I have never seen this race before thanks for posting the link. What Kirui did was genius he was not going to outkick Haile or even beat him in a time trial but he knew that with a little luck and the element of surprise that he had a chance. No one expects someone to go out at WR pace in championship races and if it does happen it is usually assumed that it is not sustainable. Haile made a mistake that day and could have won the race if he had not underestimated his opponent. I don't Mo would have done that. He was mentally prepared for this situation to happen and even expected it. He was not going to let someone go like that.