rhallfan wrote:
why not go for sub 58 or even sub 57???? i think he has the talent and the potential
Sub 57 would be 4:20 mile pace. I don't think so, buddy.
rhallfan wrote:
why not go for sub 58 or even sub 57???? i think he has the talent and the potential
Sub 57 would be 4:20 mile pace. I don't think so, buddy.
should be wrote:
Maybe this: "Ryan Hall says he's doping to run a 59:00 half marathon in the future."
I lol'd
Hyan Rall wrote:
I wouldn't be so sure about that. He's a great long distance talent, and he's still young for a marathoner. If he can get his act together, stay healthy and have some consistency, I think he can run 2:06-2:08 again. And that could be enough for winning a big marathon, if all goes well and he is extremely lucky. Running low 59 Half will not happen, but running great marathons is still possible.
Ryan is burnt out (mentally & physically) from all that mileage, but more importantly all that SOLO training.
I don't understand why pro runners don't use/engage college teams more....to run their junk miles with.
Why didn't Paula Radcliffe use the UNM mens team when she was training in Albu???
Such a waste of a resource - how say u?
OnIt wrote:
His 59:43 was with great weather and with a tail-wind, just like his Boston performance...
Both Hall's marathon and half marathon PRs were wind-aided flukes
his half wasn't wind-aided or it wouldn't count for a record. check the record books, he's up there in 59:43. legal race
I want to see Ryan Hall run well. He has had a frustrating few years with occasional flashes of success. My assessment of him is that he is not really excited about "racing" and never really has been. He gets excited about "fast times". Fortunately for him, he is a white guy who can run with the Africans and that gets him good sponsorship. Unfortunately, getting 5th or worse in a big Marathon does not pay that well and he just does not seem to fight for the placing. So now he is fighting the fact that he has never quite lived up to the hype.
His frustration of the past few years is at least partly self inflicted. Just before withdrawing from Chicago 2010, he ran the Tioga Pass Run. I suspect it was against his coach's wishes. Then he left the coaching situation which got him the Half AR and a 2:06:17 Marathon to go on his own program. The results are mixed, but probably more bad than good.
I also agree that his early success in the Half and Marathon was largely due to excellent speed (13:15 5k) followed by a great endurance program. That speed is long gone now. Maybe that is part of the reason he seems to have no fight when moves happen in a Marathon. Maybe he just lacks the speed to cover them.
Again, I wish him the best. But I hope he gets healthy and runs fast again.
IVY LEEG wrote:
McFlounder wrote:I hope to make $775K next year.
making $775k (or at LEAST 250k) is EASY if you have a degree from a PRESTIGIOUS IVY LEAGUE university.
What sort of SAT would you need to get into one of those?
Contemplating it wrote:
I also agree that his early success in the Half and Marathon was largely due to excellent speed (13:15 5k) followed by a great endurance program. That speed is long gone now. Maybe that is part of the reason he seems to have no fight when moves happen in a Marathon. Maybe he just lacks the speed to cover them.
Calling 13:15 "excellent speed" is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? His competitors can hold that pace for almost or all of 10k.
sjs wrote:
Calling 13:15 "excellent speed" is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? His competitors can hold that pace for almost or all of 10k.
no they can't. ryan hall isn't racing on the track, and nobody can run that fast right now
2450 or better.
What to expect in this thread wrote:
IVY LEEG wrote:making $775k (or at LEAST 250k) is EASY if you have a degree from a PRESTIGIOUS IVY LEAGUE university.
What sort of SAT would you need to get into one of those?
reed wrote:
sjs wrote:Calling 13:15 "excellent speed" is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? His competitors can hold that pace for almost or all of 10k.
no they can't. ryan hall isn't racing on the track, and nobody can run that fast right now
Off the top of my head, Tadesse and Wanjiru. I'm sure there are a few Kenyans also.
sjs wrote:
reed wrote:no they can't. ryan hall isn't racing on the track, and nobody can run that fast right now
Off the top of my head, Tadesse and Wanjiru. I'm sure there are a few Kenyans also.
are you serious? "and nobody can run that fast right now" and your examples of people who can include a dead person and someone who seemingly cant figure out how to run the marathon to his potential. i'd love to see wanjiru run the 5000 in zurich. bets on a time?
Mr Slim wrote:
God, he is skinny these days. Compare him to this clip from 2009
http://youtu.be/5np0CEMjFp8
Froome
Farah
and now Hall?
AICAR
sjs wrote:
reed wrote:no they can't. ryan hall isn't racing on the track, and nobody can run that fast right now
Off the top of my head, Tadesse and Wanjiru. I'm sure there are a few Kenyans also.
Their PRs are 26:37 and 26:41 respectively. 27:24 on the road for Tadesse.
By "future" he must mean his next life, because he sure as hell isn't doing it in this lifetime.
TYLER,THECREATOR wrote:
RYAN HALL IS A DELUSIONAL PERSON. SO OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO SET UNREALISTIC GOALS. AFTER ALL, HE BELIEVES IN AN IMAGINARY PERSON WHOM HE WORSHIPS DISTURBINGLY. LOL
So do millions of other Americans you retard. Joe Vigil, the greatest coach in America worships God. Do you think Vigil is a nutcase too?
Thanks for clarifying with that second sentence.
gaber wrote:
And I hope to date supermodels in the future. Doesn't mean it will happen.
sjs wrote:
reed wrote:no they can't. ryan hall isn't racing on the track, and nobody can run that fast right now
Off the top of my head, Tadesse and Wanjiru. I'm sure there are a few Kenyans also.
LOL wanjiru are you serious? that dude hasn't run in years. i heard he isn't even that active anymore. jk he jumped out of a window
and tadesse would get beat even by washed up ryan hall in a marathon
OnIt wrote:
His 59:43 was with great weather and with a tail-wind, just like his Boston performance.
Both Hall's marathon and half marathon PRs were wind-aided flukes and don't represent his true fitness level at any point in his career. Sorry to say it, but in reality, Hall was a 2:06-2:07 marathoner at his peak, which has already long passed.
What the friggin heck? If conditions were so favorable and they were getting blown to the finish, why did no other male run under 62, including Bizuneh, Meb, Carlson, Lehmkuhle, Sell, Browne, etc. And why did no female run under 1:11? Hall's 59:43 was the only amazing run of the day.
At Boston, everyone ran fast with the wind. Hall was nearly a half mile behind in 2:04:58. But at that Houston Half, no one else torched the course.
Wasn't it a national championship race? It was a loop course, wasn't it? You're saying a loop course was wind-aided?
quartzite wrote:
rhallfan wrote:why not go for sub 58 or even sub 57???? i think he has the talent and the potential
Sub 57 would be 4:20 mile pace. I don't think so, buddy.
well i think he can do anything if he just wants plus he has God on his side and God gives him strength and anything is really possible
rhallfan wrote:
quartzite wrote:Sub 57 would be 4:20 mile pace. I don't think so, buddy.
well i think he can do anything if he just wants plus he has God on his side and God gives him strength and anything is really possible
Makes you wonder what Jesus could have run.
Walking on water > 59 min half marathon
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