Is Mo's 3:28 Huge in Your Suspicions of NOP Doping?

petrada wrote:

Sagarin wrote:

Mo's 3:28 raises some eyebrows but isn't necessarily indicative of suspicious activity. Lagat ran 7:29 and 12:53 after age 35. Mo had run 12:57 before joining Salazar, and by all appearances, hadn't really been fully committed to the sport the way a champion would be, certainly not with regard to his speed. If Mo had run 7:29, would we be having the same "suspicions?"

Could not be said better. Thank you.

shut the fuc.k up, both of u

I live in England, I've said it before and I'll say it again, just a few years ago, think it was 2009 I watched Farah struggle to run 1.52/53 over 800, he ALWAYS struggled to run sub 3.40. He was never the phenomenon that guys like Ovett/Cram etc were, he was a good but unremarkable athlete.

Now he is being talked about as am ALL TIME GREAT, this same guy couldn't win a Euro XC race just a few years ago, now he is invincible. Something changed and it isn't throwing a medicine ball around. We hear all the stories about how weak he was and how strong he is now, the guy must be 120lbs wet through, he looks about as strong as a paper bag.

I live in England too, and you are wrong, completely wrong. Mo was always one of the great hopes of British middle and long distance running.

What has changed? He has assumed the mantle.

jono wrote:

I live in England too, and you are wrong, completely wrong. Mo was always one of the great hopes of British middle and long distance running.

What has changed? He has assumed the mantle.

Hey look, here's video of Mo running in the 2008 Oly 5. Oh, wait...he didn't make the final. Still a great race.

Hey look, here's a video of Mo running in the 2007 World Championship 5000m final...in the lead until 200 to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sHYX3-c1U

C'mon man, it's IMPOSSIBLE for a 31-year old to win gold in both the 5,000 and 1,500 at a major world championship. Only guys in their mid-20s are capable of such feats. That video has to be a fake.

jono wrote:

Hey look, here's a video of Mo running in the 2007 World Championship 5000m final...in the lead until 200 to go.

So, he get's outkicked and eventually ends up 6th and 6 years later he routinely outkicks every modern day talent and doubles at worlds!? In his "prime" he struggled to make a final and now he's on schedule to become best ever!?

weuoiu wrote:

[quote]jono wrote:

So, he get's outkicked and eventually ends up 6th and 6 years later he routinely outkicks every modern day talent and doubles at worlds!? In his "prime" he struggled to make a final and now he's on schedule to become best ever!?

Exactly. This is why I can accept that bekele and geb were clean way before I could accept that farah is. Geb and bekele always showed greatness, from their teens and throughout their career. Mo never did until his nearly a decade into his career. It just doesn't pass the smell test to me.

Not sure about this wrote:

I live in England, I've said it before and I'll say it again, just a few years ago, think it was 2009 I watched Farah struggle to run 1.52/53 over 800, he ALWAYS struggled to run sub 3.40. He was never the phenomenon that guys like Ovett/Cram etc were, he was a good but unremarkable athlete.

Now he is being talked about as am ALL TIME GREAT, this same guy couldn't win a Euro XC race just a few years ago, now he is invincible. Something changed and it isn't throwing a medicine ball around. We hear all the stories about how weak he was and how strong he is now, the guy must be 120lbs wet through, he looks about as strong as a paper bag.

Yes, something changed indeed...

As one notable coach and multi-time Olympian posted on Facebook, "The day he ran 3:28 changed everything." I think that Mo Farah actually made a mistake of sorts by running that fast that day. If the class dimwit manages to cheat on a test by getting the answers in advance and turns in an 85 percent instead of his usual 60, it's easy enough to presume that he finally started studying hard. If he scores 100 out of 100, though, it raises eyebrows more than it impresses the teachers.

The people in the U.K. urging him to distance himself from the NOP have the right idea, but given everything that's come to light, their apparent assumption that Farah himself is clean is very likely somewhere between quaint and hopelessly naive.

Nice bump.

To all the posters who saw through the bs of Mo and Twit (Bieber)

I salute thee.

I am going to see both of them lose their metals.

I want to see espicailly that Bieber pee his shorts when it happens

Mo dropped 42 seconds in the 10000m from 2010 (pre-Salazar) to 2011 (Salazar). That's 27:28 to 26:46. Other than that, prior to this indoor campaign, and his times wouldn't attract much notice, except for the 1500m. He has yet to run a great 3k (7:33 is his pr after running 7:34i way back in 2009). He dropped time in the 5000m just before Salazar to around 12:57 (with Canova) and a few more seconds with Salazar to 12:53. The titles have been spectacular but not the times, except for the 1500m. He had run just 3:33 and then he ran 3:28.81, leaping from slower than Jim Ryun in the 1500m to faster than Steve Cram and Said Aouita and Seb Coe and Steve Scott and many other legends, all in one race. Maybe he avoided fast races at the other distances just out of caution that it would be a red flag at that advanced age. But he got into the Monaco race and was chasing Kiprop and close to a young Kenyan.

KMB wrote:

As one notable coach and multi-time Olympian posted on Facebook, "The day he ran 3:28 changed everything." I think that Mo Farah actually made a mistake of sorts by running that fast that day. If the class dimwit manages to cheat on a test by getting the answers in advance and turns in an 85 percent instead of his usual 60, it's easy enough to presume that he finally started studying hard. If he scores 100 out of 100, though, it raises eyebrows more than it impresses the teachers.

The people in the U.K. urging him to distance himself from the NOP have the right idea, but given everything that's come to light, their apparent assumption that Farah himself is clean is very likely somewhere between quaint and hopelessly naive.

+1 This

Farah looked kind of freaked out in London 2012, and combined with his ridiculous 3:28, he will be haunted forever for having gone the NOP route. Even a doped-up Bekele never did such a thing.