I'm sure the people trying to survive fatal heat waves as I you're this are feeling better knowing that you've had a mild summer.
232323 wrote:
It was pretty cold here this morning.
I'm sure the people trying to survive fatal heat waves as I you're this are feeling better knowing that you've had a mild summer.
232323 wrote:
It was pretty cold here this morning.
Um, it's not global warming if parts of the globe are cold.
Its a big part of Hillary Clintons Presidential run. She will win easy after Osama. Just think..Prez Hillary. "I was under sniper fire on the runway when I landed." They show the video all a complete lie...show it to her on national TV. She just says.."What does it matter!"
(CNSNews.com) – The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recently released its “State of the Climate in 2012” report, which states that “worldwide, 2012 was among the 10 warmest years on record.”
But the report “fails to mention [2012] was one of the coolest of the decade, and thus confirms the cooling trend,” according to an analysis by climate blogger Pierre Gosselin.
“To no one’s surprise, the report gives the reader the impression that warming is galloping ahead out of control,” writes Gosselin. “But their data shows just the opposite.”
Although the NOAA report noted that in 2012, “the Arctic continues to warm” with “sea ice reaching record lows,” it also stated that the Antarctica sea ice “reached a record high of 7.51 million square miles” on Sept. 26, 2012.
And the latest figures for this year show that there’s been a slowdown of melting in the Arctic this summer as well, with temperatures at the North Pole well below normal for this time of year. Meteorologist Joe Bstardi calls it “the coldest ever recorded.”
The Associated Press had to retract a photo it released on July 27 with the caption, “The shallow meltwater lake is occurring due to an unusually warm period.”
“In fact, the water accumulates in this way every summer,” AP admitted in a note to editors, adding that the photo was doubly misleading because “the camera used by the North Pole Environment Observatory has drifted hundreds of miles from its original position, which was a few dozen miles from the pole.”
AP Before/After North Pole
Before/after North Pole photos retracted by AP.
NOAA also reported that the “average lower strastospheric temperature, about six to ten miles above the Earth’s surface, for 2012 was record or near-record cold, depending on the dataset” even while the concentrations of greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, continued to increase.
"Even with all this data manipulation, the trend is down as shown by this Hadley global plot," writes Joseph D'Aleo, former director of meteorology at The Weather Channel. (See D'Aleo - Real Story About Temps.pdf)
"Last year was the 8th warmest but 7th coldest since 1998. They explain it away with the predominance of La Ninas or a solar blip, but say it was the warmest decade nonetheless, so stop questioning us," he said.
On August 7th, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten quoted Irish solar expert Ian Elliott predicting that lower levels of sunspot activity over the next few years “indicates that we may be on the path to a new little ice age.”
“If you think scientists just couldn’t get any more incompetent, then think again. NOAA scientists even appear to believe that cold events are now signs of warming,” Gosselin points out.
“When one carefully reads the report, we find that the NOAA findings actually do confirm precisely what the skeptics have been claiming all along:
1. The Earth has stopped warming.
2. The climate models exaggerated future warming [caused by] CO2 climate sensitivity is much lower than we first thought.
“That’s the real issue at hand,” he added.
OMG!!! RU Kidding me.. You do realize that absolutely nothing in that whole text indicates a cooling trend or even that there is no warming trend.
Here is what we know.
1. It's gotten warmer over the past 150 years... roughly the time that direct temperature measurements have been made.
2. There have been two notable periods of exception... a decline in temp from 1940 to 1970 and a leveling period from 1998 to the presently ongoing period of 15 years.
3. The 2007 IPCC report used 23 models with 8 different scenarios... ALL OF WHICH showed a gradual increase in temp as CO2 levels increased.
4. None of these dozens of potential outcomes shows a decline from 1940 to 1970 or the current decline from 1998 and continuing.
The one thing we can take away from this is that the models are NOT ACCURATE PREDICTION MODELS. Instead of saying, "Oops, we made a wrong forecast." The focus has been instead on hiding these declines.
ignorant turd wrote:
Jebus crispy, that writer is stupid. You are even more stupid if you believe it. Paraphrasing: "2012 was one of the 10 warmest years on record. But 2012 was one of the coolest of the decade. This confirms a cooling trend." WHAAAAAAAT????? Somebody failed statistics....or maybe 5th grade math.
But that analysis was done by a climate blogger. How much more professional can you get?
What declines?
fisky wrote:
Here is what we know.
1. It's gotten warmer over the past 150 years... roughly the time that direct temperature measurements have been made.
2. There have been two notable periods of exception... a decline in temp from 1940 to 1970 and a leveling period from 1998 to the presently ongoing period of 15 years.
3. The 2007 IPCC report used 23 models with 8 different scenarios... ALL OF WHICH showed a gradual increase in temp as CO2 levels increased.
4. None of these dozens of potential outcomes shows a decline from 1940 to 1970 or the current decline from 1998 and continuing.
The one thing we can take away from this is that the models are NOT ACCURATE PREDICTION MODELS. Instead of saying, "Oops, we made a wrong forecast." The focus has been instead on hiding these declines.
Here's is the underlying reason Global Warming is disputed in this country:
Criminallllllity wrote:
Its a big part of Hillary Clintons Presidential run. She will win easy after Osama. Just think..Prez Hillary. "I was under sniper fire on the runway when I landed." They show the video all a complete lie...show it to her on national TV. She just says.."What does it matter!"
If you don't support our democratically elected president and compare him to the worst terrorist of all time, you can get the hell out of our country, America-hater!
Citizen Runner wrote:
It's more than NOAA perpetrating the hoax, it's virtually every mainstream scientific body with any relation to climate science and the overwhelming majority of researchers working in the field. Shocking really that it's only internet bloggers and right wing media telling the real story.
What you're essentially saying is that anyone who stands to profit from the global warming business is perpetuating it. no shit. Follow the money.
How much money was al gore worth before the global warming hoax? And how much after his tv channel sold for 500million dollars? global Warming is a great business model--as with most scare schemes. It's made a lot of people rich.
reading 101 wrote:
Citizen Runner wrote:It's more than NOAA perpetrating the hoax, it's virtually every mainstream scientific body with any relation to climate science and the overwhelming majority of researchers working in the field. Shocking really that it's only internet bloggers and right wing media telling the real story.
What you're essentially saying is that anyone who stands to profit from the global warming business is perpetuating it. no shit. Follow the money.
How much money was al gore worth before the global warming hoax? And how much after his tv channel sold for 500million dollars? global Warming is a great business model--as with most scare schemes. It's made a lot of people rich.
Ah yes, amazing how all those oil-backed lobbyists and anti-tax crusaders are completely free of the vested interests that every scientist apparently shares.
Thank God we can trust the integrity and impartiality of the utterly non-ideological skeptics.
reading 101 wrote:
Citizen Runner wrote:It's more than NOAA perpetrating the hoax, it's virtually every mainstream scientific body with any relation to climate science and the overwhelming majority of researchers working in the field. Shocking really that it's only internet bloggers and right wing media telling the real story.
What you're essentially saying is that anyone who stands to profit from the global warming business is perpetuating it. no shit. Follow the money.
How much money was al gore worth before the global warming hoax? And how much after his tv channel sold for 500million dollars? global Warming is a great business model--as with most scare schemes. It's made a lot of people rich.
Do you find it difficult to get girls to talk to you when you're wearing your tin-foil hat?
Money IS the most important thing in the world.
Citizen Runner wrote:
It's more than NOAA perpetrating the hoax, it's virtually every mainstream scientific body with any relation to climate science and the overwhelming majority of researchers working in the field. Shocking really that it's only internet bloggers and right wing media telling the real story.
reading 101 wrote:
What you're essentially saying is that anyone who stands to profit from the global warming business is perpetuating it. no shit. Follow the money.
How much money was al gore worth before the global warming hoax? And how much after his tv channel sold for 500million dollars? global Warming is a great business model--as with most scare schemes. It's made a lot of people rich.
Good point, Exxon Mobil is in on the hoax as well:
http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/safety_climate.aspxIt's not just money, although companies of course want to push the envelope until the public pressures politicians to act. The problem is the public, see the link above from Rush Limbaugh. This is a real issue, not just some atheist fantasy explanation. Multiple sources, including Rush himself, have brought up the Evangelical influence on climate change as a hoax. It's baffling, but a political reality in the US.
Citizen Runner wrote:
It's more than NOAA perpetrating the hoax, it's virtually every mainstream scientific body with any relation to climate science and the overwhelming majority of researchers working in the field. Shocking really that it's only internet bloggers and right wing media telling the real story.
Blame Arrhenius, who over 100 years ago perpetrated the lie that CO2 was a greenhouse gas. This was the work of liberals who wanted to destroy the carbon economy before it began. Tens of thousands of scientists have been in on the conspiracy ever since, and somehow none have ever spilled the beans.
These are the same guys who told John Kerry to lie about Vietnam in the '70s so he could run for President in 2004. The same folks who printed a false birth announcement of Obama in a Hawaii newspaper so 40 years later they could install him as a Stalinist American President.
It all makes sense, right?
reading 101 wrote:
Citizen Runner wrote:It's more than NOAA perpetrating the hoax, it's virtually every mainstream scientific body with any relation to climate science and the overwhelming majority of researchers working in the field. Shocking really that it's only internet bloggers and right wing media telling the real story.
What you're essentially saying is that anyone who stands to profit from the global warming business is perpetuating it. no shit. Follow the money.
How much money was al gore worth before the global warming hoax? And how much after his tv channel sold for 500million dollars? global Warming is a great business model--as with most scare schemes. It's made a lot of people rich.
What you're essentially saying it that the few billions at stake in climate research trumps the few trillions at stake in big oil, big coal, electric power, natural gas, air transportation and automobile industries.
Got it. Those global warming conspiracists must be smart as hell!
wowsers wrote:
Here's is the underlying reason Global Warming is disputed in this country:
http://thecontributor.com/media-matters-staff-limbaugh-if-you-believe-god-then-intellectually-you-cannot-believe-manmade
You are correct. We are infested with stupid religious people who put their feelings and silly bronze age beliefs above actual knowledge. BUT! That is changing, and rapidly. Oh I look forward to the day when the USA is majority non-religious. That may not happen in my lifetime, so I'll even accept when they don't have the numbers to try to force their stupid religious laws on the intelligent ones of us.