The Curious Case of Treniere Moser

haha this is so epic, i'm so pumped that the NOP is under scrutiny now.

WEBB > SALAZAR

Being a certified physio and looking at the picture of the MRI posted on the NOP website, I can assure you that this is a massive ruptured hamstring. There is no way anybody could continue running, or even be able to jog with that type of injury. The person with a hamstring like that should be limping around on crutches.

questions need to be asked wrote:

Being a certified physio and looking at the picture of the MRI posted on the NOP website, I can assure you that this is a massive ruptured hamstring. There is no way anybody could continue running, or even be able to jog with that type of injury. The person with a hamstring like that should be limping around on crutches.

Yeah but she said she can still do easy running and wants to race in September lol. What a bunch of BS.

questions need to be asked wrote:

Being a certified physio and looking at the picture of the MRI posted on the NOP website, I can assure you that this is a massive ruptured hamstring. There is no way anybody could continue running, or even be able to jog with that type of injury. The person with a hamstring like that should be limping around on crutches.

Why would a physio know how to read an MRI? You can't prescribe them.

Also pro athletes often pay media relations companies to run their twitter accounts. Remember Ryan Hall's tweet about how excited he was to be running Chicago, just after he pulled out due to injury?

jus playin devils advocate wrote:

Why would a physio know how to read an MRI? You can't prescribe them.

non sequitur. foolish enough comment to call in to question either the posters expertise or his/her motives.

Gotta have faith.

"the best sports doctor in Europe strongly advised me not to run Worlds."

like alberto is going to rely 100% on some random doctor in europe and not consult with his usual ortho doctors back in the USA. this is utter bs. it's also utter bs that she then was advised that she can run on it no problem but just don't do any workouts. it's further bs that OTC posted her MRI result on the internet. who knows if even is hers. the fact that she flew to moscow and waited until thursday to withdraw is just the icing on the cake. if it really were that bad and she learned on monday that her hamstring is torn, then why fly to moscow and wait 3 more days to tell the USATF. i agree that this does not pass the smell test at all. she must be glowing over there.

This stinks to high heaven. Alberto flexing his immunity to the highest degree.

triguy2 wrote:

it's further bs that OTC posted her MRI result on the internet. who knows if even is hers.

How would you want that verified?

If nobody told Brown to have her visa ready (at least, if not be in Russia) that is troubling. This is apparently an ongoing injury, she didnt twist an ankle in Moscow...

So, if accurate that nobody advised Brown of a possible wd, it looks suspicious at worst and discourteous at best.

Now, maybe they did advise her and she elected to do nothing until it was a certainty she was in, seems doubtful, but not impossible I suppose.

Beyond all of this though, if she ducked a test, would'nt there be repercussions from that whether she wd or not? I haven't heard anyone (iaaf, usada etc) raising any complaints.

I love how the NOP all of a sudden has a PR man and a website and a Twitter account and is seemingly sharing all their "inside" details. I agree, this smells very fishy. It's a big shift from where they were even a few months ago. First time I've seen an immediate Q&A on an injury released as a press release from the team she's running for. And with a tiny x-ray picture? With a ruptured hamstring she can still run easy with? Huh?!

800 analyzer wrote:

If nobody told Brown to have her visa ready (at least, if not be in Russia) that is troubling. This is apparently an ongoing injury, she didnt twist an ankle in Moscow...

So, if accurate that nobody advised Brown of a possible wd, it looks suspicious at worst and discourteous at best.

Now, maybe they did advise her and she elected to do nothing until it was a certainty she was in, seems doubtful, but not impossible I suppose.

Beyond all of this though, if she ducked a test, would'nt there be repercussions from that whether she wd or not? I haven't heard anyone (iaaf, usada etc) raising any complaints.

If Brown is informed that she's the alternate, it's her job to be ready to go at the drop of a hat.

Wow, do you people think EVERYONE is on drugs? She said she's injured, so just give her the benefit of the doubt. There was no dodged drug test, there was no positive test, just an injury. What do athletes have to do to make you people think they're clean?

Her last couple of race results indicate something was going wrong.

If I was as suspicious as some of the people on here, I certainly would not be a fan of this sport.

Mo is old wrote:

Wow, do you people think EVERYONE is on drugs? She said she's injured, so just give her the benefit of the doubt. There was no dodged drug test, there was no positive test, just an injury. What do athletes have to do to make you people think they're clean?

They have to be David Rudisha. He's a baller.

questions need to be asked wrote: Being a certified physio and looking at the picture of the MRI posted on the NOP website, I can assure you that...

Being a certified physio and looking at that tiny icon-sized version of an MRI, you should know better than to imagine you know anything about the prognosis of the patient.

Of course it's possible that this is all some massive conspiracy. But it's also completely reasonable to think that she had a nagging injury that interfered with her last few races, hoped she could run through it and it would get better, but as time passed it didn't get better. So finally she was able to line up an MRI and get an expert to look at it, and the news was much worse than expected, so she had to withdraw at the last minute. You know -- exactly like the Oregon Project release explained.

To the poster who suggested that the release and posting of the MRI seems like a response to all the doping rumors here -- I agree. That's exactly what it seems like. That doesn't mean it's not true, it just means that they're sensitive to the accusations and speculation. Wouldn't you be?

To the OP, why do you say:

"What doesn't make sense is that if you strain a hamstring, but finish a 1,500m. Then during the 3k, she dropped out with no signs of injury from any reporter there (like with Centro) or visible signs of injury during the race or post race."

Just because the reporters didn't see her limping means she didn't have an injury? I've had serious injuries I've tried to brush off before. She probably didn't want to make excuses!!

Solinsky strained his hamstring after USA's 5k in 2011. He wasn't visibly injured. We only knew because he whined about it. He then dropped out of that Diamond League 5k claiming to get pushed. We now know the real reason was that he was seriously injured and frustrated. At this level, these athletes will run through their injuries and not make excuses.

Lopez Lomong also ran through a hamstring strain this year at USA's. He was unable to run the 5k because of it. He's raced very minimally since.

Your post is irrational and pisses me off.

800 analyzer wrote:

If nobody told Brown to have her visa ready (at least, if not be in Russia) that is troubling. This is apparently an ongoing injury, she didnt twist an ankle in Moscow...

So, if accurate that nobody advised Brown of a possible wd, it looks suspicious at worst and discourteous at best.

Now, maybe they did advise her and she elected to do nothing until it was a certainty she was in, seems doubtful, but not impossible I suppose.

It took Edward Snowden 39 days to get a Russian visa even with the intervention of the country's president . . .

The truth here is pretty simple and is one of 3 possibilities.

1. Treniere Moser is in the employ of the CIA. She uses here job as a professional runner as a cover to allow her to travel freely. The CIA manipulated the 1500 at the Trials to get her on the team. They needed her in the country originally to do work in advance of the G-20 summit in September but now she is probably off to track Edward Snowdon. They need her free now to do the work so once she was in the country they concocted this story to free her from the obligations of the meet.

2. Treniere Moser is in the employ of a group far more sinister than the CIA-- Nike. Nike manipulated the 1500 at the Trials to get her on the team. Now however with Cain on the team they need to ensure that Cain is the top American finisher to maximize her potential marketing value. Nike concocted this story to increase the likelihood of Cain's success.

3. She hurt her hammy and had the ticket in place before getting the results of her MRI. She may have had a second reading done of the MRI which she did not hear about until after she arrived in Moscow.