British Milers Club posted this on Facebook.
http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/features/4215/sebastian-coe-what-ive-learned/
'When you’re running a hundred miles a week, a couple of beers after a day’s training isn’t a problem. I think we’ve got rather obsessed with diet. I didn’t drink during the race. I like good whisky. I occasionally have coffee and a cognac at the end of an evening; mainly I drink beer'
Seb Coe
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away. Now it looks as though they're here to stay. Oh, I believe in yesterday's news
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=5264761&thread=5264642
Paul McCartney wrote:
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away. Now it looks as though they're here to stay. Oh, I believe in yesterday's news
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=5264761&thread=5264642
Nice.
How would seb Coe know what 100 miles a week is like?
nice to see a big name like Coe put it out there that people need to relax a bit and just put the miles in.
Seb skipped the miles and hit the EPO needle.
566 wrote:
Seb skipped the miles and hit the EPO needle.
They didn't have EPO then. Not until about 93
Shore to please wrote:
How would seb Coe know what 100 miles a week is like?
Because he ran 100 miles a week during part of the year. The idea that he was low mileage was to mess with everyone's head.
domestic pro wrote:
nice to see a big name like Coe put it out there that people need to relax a bit and just put the miles in.
Back in the day runners were known for training hard and having a good time (Rod Dixon, John Walker, etc).
It's just a few letsrun dweebs who think it's counterproductive.
TLW wrote:
Shore to please wrote:How would seb Coe know what 100 miles a week is like?
Because he ran 100 miles a week during part of the year. The idea that he was low mileage was to mess with everyone's head.
Because he did run relatively low mileage to other milers at the time. This wasn't throughout his career, but certainly in 77-79 period he was doing low mileage.
In an interview with Athletics Weekly (a UK mag) in Feb 1978, he stated, "In terms of mileage it's still quite low compared to a lot of people - about 35 /40 miles per week-..."
And this was more than a year before his first WR. Why would he lie about his mileage at that point of his career, when predominantly an 800 specialist?
Then in an interview in Dec 79, he says that his mileage "averaged out at 51 miles a week throughout the winter. Sometimes it was considerably less than 51, other weeks I got up to about 60"
This is totally reasonable for an 800 guy of 21/22.
The mileage probably increased with age and in Olympic years.
They didn't have EPO then. Not until about 93[/quote]
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Was around before you could buy it at your local wal-mart. Cyclists and Euro runners had access back in late 1970s.
Seb Coes father was in the medical field. The first athlete, and only athlete he ever "coached" was Seb. Amazing man. Amazing pharmocologist.
566 wrote:
Seb Coes father was in the medical field. The first athlete, and only athlete he ever "coached" was Seb. Amazing man. Amazing pharmocologist.
Peter Coe was an engineer.
Good job answering this guy. How can people just blatantly write something that is not true. By the way he also did coach other athletes.
Will 566 ever answer back?
566 wrote:
They didn't have EPO then. Not until about 93
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Was around before you could buy it at your local wal-mart. Cyclists and Euro runners had access back in late 1970s.
Seb Coes father was in the medical field. The first athlete, and only athlete he ever "coached" was Seb. Amazing man. Amazing pharmocologist.[/quote]
Idiot. He was an engineer who ran a cutlery factory.
No EPO was used in any sport until the 90's.
deanouk wrote:
Idiot. He was an engineer who ran a cutlery factory.
No EPO was used in any sport until the 90's.
Deano, I think the poster was taking the piss (Walmart doesn't sell EPO)!
I think you are probably wrong in your timeline for EPO, purified EPO was around in the 70s, and rhEPO was in trials much earlier than the 90s - and, as we've seen with GW501516, drug cheats don't always wait around for the clinical trials to finish. I
Also, nobody has mentioned this yet, but Peter Coe did train another Olympic medallist.
Peter Coe is a wizard and used black magic to make Seb Coe run fast. The evidence of his wizadry is in this picture:
http://celebslists.com/6257-peter-coe@imagepeter-coe-02.jpg.html
[quote]GenericID wrote:
[quote]deanouk wrote:
I think you are probably wrong in your timeline for EPO, purified EPO was around in the 70s, and rhEPO was in trials much earlier than the 90s - and, as we've seen with GW501516, drug cheats don't always wait around for the clinical trials to finish. I
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Historical aspects of human recombinant erythropoietin in sport
1977 Purified EPO is isolated from human urine for the first time.
1985 EPO gene is cloned.
1987 Recombinant EPO is first available in Europe.
1987-1990 A number of deaths of competitive Dutch and Belgian cyclists is linked to EPO use (see Gambrell/Lombardo, ch. 1; Rossi et al., ch. 1; Deacon/Gains, ch. 3).
If the EPO gene wasn't cloned until 85, then it certainly wasn't being used in sport in the 70's. Only available in Europe in 87, so I would strongly suggest athletes weren't using until 1990 at earliest, especially if cyclists didn't start using until late 80's. I may be a year or two out with athletes' first use, but certainly it wasn't available to the likes of Coe in the late 70's/ early 80's.
I think the general consensus from posters I've read on here is that it started being used on the circuit from around 92/93.
Who said anything about recombinant EPO - purified EPO would be equally effective. I'm not suggesting anything about Coe using EPO, just that you are wrong about when it became available as a PED.
Also, you seem stuck on the idea that people waited until the clinical trials were finished and the drug was approved for clinical use - something which, as I pointed out with GW501516 and is also happening with AOD-9604, isn't necessary for people to use a drug illicitly.
Why would you put a time lag between cycling and athletics? Personal bias isn't proof, you are aware of that, aren't you?
As for the general consensus on LetsRun, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, personally, the average IQ around here wouldn't reach treble digits.
What ever you say, Seb! :) :)
Steven Prefontaine wrote:
What ever you say, Seb! :) :)
I wish!
