German Fernandez

He hardly ever posts on Facebook, don't know what he's up to.

wait, if he's injured, would that also still be dave smith's fault? hopefully you're seeing the common denominator here to german fernandez problems: GERMAN FERNANDEZ.

not a bandwagoner wrote:

wait, if he's injured, would that also still be dave smith's fault? hopefully you're seeing the common denominator here to german fernandez problems: GERMAN FERNANDEZ.

At this point, Dave Smith is pretty much in a win-win situation.

If German never does much as a pro it will show that it wasn't really Dave's fault that he didn't live up to his promise in college. If German does great as a pro it will show that Dave did not screw him up but helped him built up a long-term base in spite of injury issues.

Either way Dave wins.

He's just getting in good training. Stop freaking out. German has a nasty habit of getting injured during indoors, so they aren't risking it.

uphill workout wrote:

He's just getting in good training. Stop freaking out. German has a nasty habit of getting injured during indoors, so they aren't risking it.

Then why did they enter him in the first place? Methinks that your explanation does not quite hold water.

I love how people immediately jump to injury assumptions.

suburbanxcore wrote:

I love how people immediately jump to injury assumptions.

When he is entered in a race and then pulled out a week or two before it is not altogether implausible that health issues may be behind the change of plans.

That's too bad he is not racing, it would have been a great race to watch! Whatever the issue is, i hope he is well. Our mexican bodies have a tendency to hate cold and we dont like to come out in the winter, but once thing get a little warmer the actions begins...

Speaking of Dave wrote:

If German never does much as a pro it will show that it wasn't really Dave's fault

How would the damage caused by Smith not be Smith's fault?

The question is whether German can recover from the damage caused by Smith, and run well again.

cause and effect wrote:

Speaking of Dave wrote:

If German never does much as a pro it will show that it wasn't really Dave's fault

How would the damage caused by Smith not be Smith's fault?

The question is whether German can recover from the damage caused by Smith, and run well again.

I guess a 3:34.60 for 1500 this past September does not count as running well again.

I believe running for Nike they are looking at the out door season as a priority.

you dave smith haters just don't get it, do you? the kid DOES NOT listen. he does what he wants. he trains hard ALL THE TIME, despite what dave asked him to do. he goes and decides he wants to be a vegetarian all of a sudden without really knowing what that means...gets sick...gets anemia. whatever. i just really wish people who know only what they read on message boards and pretend that they're experts because of this would shut up. seriously. on top of that, you a$$hats that call him "dave" when you have never even spoken a word to him in your life are pathetic, wannabes. it reminds me of those guys at golf tournaments that talk to the golfers as they stroll by, calling to them by "phil", etc like they know them. total losers.

He must be hurt. I was about to start a thread about it actually but saw this.

Solinsky tweeted a couple days ago about a speed workout he did with Huling, Jager, Bumby, and Lomong. The guys missing in the group are Heath, Teg, Derrick, and FERNANDEZ. Heath, Teg, and Derrick just raced. According to twitter, German was in Colorado Springs with them so the only reason he would've missed that workout is because he's injured.

Jager, Bumby, and Lomong are running Millrose. Solinsky and Huling are probably out of shape and don't want to open up just yet. German ran a really good 1500 in late summer so if he's not injured, he should be good to go.

Hopefully it's not serious... but he's definitely injured.

incredulousity wrote:

... on top of that, you a$$hats that call him "dave" when you have never even spoken a word to him in your life are pathetic, wannabes. it reminds me of those guys at golf tournaments that talk to the golfers as they stroll by, calling to them by "phil", etc like they know them. total losers.

Wow, you really made my feelings feel bad.

Your tone is convincing but there could be other reasons. Maybe he is not in great shape yet, like Solinsky. Maybe its taken him more time to adjust to the training, which must be different than OKC. Maybe they want him to do another cycle and build his aerobic base more. He probably came in with less volume than Derrick had

BTW, is Webb running?

If he is hurt, I hope he does not miss much time. When he is on, there are few like him. He may be the 2nd most talented in the group after Webb.

Logical Man wrote:

uphill workout wrote:

He's just getting in good training. Stop freaking out. German has a nasty habit of getting injured during indoors, so they aren't risking it.

Then why did they enter him in the first place? Methinks that your explanation does not quite hold water.

It hold loads of water! Jerry is notorious for pulling out/entering races last minute and he's always kept a close watch on whether an athlete is "ready" to race. I assume that German needs another week, or maybe he's just gearing up with some extra training for a meet that matters.

incredulousity wrote:

seriously. on top of that, you a$$hats that call him "dave" when you have never even spoken a word to him in your life are pathetic, wannabes. it reminds me of those guys at golf tournaments that talk to the golfers as they stroll by, calling to them by "phil", etc like they know them. total losers.

At least they're not calling him "Saladbar."

incredulousity wrote:

you dave smith haters just don't get it, do you? the kid DOES NOT listen. he does what he wants. he trains hard ALL THE TIME, despite what dave asked him to do. he goes and decides he wants to be a vegetarian all of a sudden without really knowing what that means

The best runners in the world are vegetarian or primarily so. They don't eat meat and make it a main course like Americans do. Fernandez was right. And he rightfully should have been training hard.

So... Smith made him eat meat and stop training... and that was German's fault now? It sounds to me that Smith keeps trying to blame German for the things that Smith did.

coach bigfoot wrote:

Logical Man wrote:

Then why did they enter him in the first place? Methinks that your explanation does not quite hold water.

It hold loads of water! Jerry is notorious for pulling out/entering races last minute and he's always kept a close watch on whether an athlete is "ready" to race. I assume that German needs another week, or maybe he's just gearing up with some extra training for a meet that matters.

Methinks that you sound like you are completely talking out your ass.

"The best runners in the world are vegetarian or primarily so."

-and who might that be? please, name names. i have spent 3 months in eldoret with the best, and can assure you, the kenyans are most definitely not vegetarians. Contrary to your uninformed statement, they DO eat meat....as do ethiopians...as do moroccans...as do algerians.

"Fernandez was right. And he rightfully should have been training hard."

-everyday? even when he was explicitly asked to run EASY? even when he was advised to take a day off? that's dave's fault? hard days are just that. easy days are for recovery. again, speak only of what you know.

"So... Smith made him eat meat and stop training... and that was German's fault now?"

-this statement makesd no sense. you must be drunk.

"It sounds to me that Smith keeps trying to blame German for the things that Smith did."

-again, you are completely clueless on this entire matter. that is blatantly obvious. smith advised...over and over and over again...german didn't listen. EVER.

i'm very much done with this thread. it's yet another example of how letsrun is rife with "experts" that really don't know anything when scrutinized. why do you even comment like you have any idea what you're talking about? i realize you're a hot and bothered manti te'o GF fanboy, and i'll rationalize your completely idiotic statements by that.