Subject says it all.
Subject says it all.
Of course they did. That was the challenge of the initial race of which they fell woefully short.
Dayton Ohio was twice the site of a world record half marathon.
No one in 1960 would have known what a half Mary was even if you'd called it by its full name. If you explained it to them they'd have probably thought you were odd for wondering. Half marathons were non-existent until at least the mid-Seventies if not later and no one cared about them enough to ponder ultimates.
I don't think people knew what a half-marathon was in 1960.
Non one cares about half marathons now.
right on... wrote:
Non one cares about half marathons now.
Really? I think people care about half-marathons too much. There's always talk about how a runner did x in the half so he must be capable of y marathon time. The predictions rarely pan out because the half is so different from the full that it shouldn't even have the name marathon attached to it. They should just start calling the half a 21k.
Only hairdressers and necrophiles call it a "Half Mary"...
letsrun di1do wrote:
Only hairdressers and necrophiles call it a "Half Mary"...
10/10
ycthdf wrote:
right on... wrote:Non one cares about half marathons now.
Really? I think people care about half-marathons too much. There's always talk about how a runner did x in the half so he must be capable of y marathon time. The predictions rarely pan out because the half is so different from the full that it shouldn't even have the name marathon attached to it. They should just start calling the half a 21k.
I really like the half, it's my favorite distance to race, but I'm so perturbed that Daniels lumps the half marathon into his marathon training program. And yes, it is very hard to predict a marathon from anything shorter than 30k in my opinion.
The fact that it took until 1977 for someone to run the 1/2 marathon faster than Derek Clayton's 1/2 way split in the Fukuoka Marathon from 1967 shows how little the event was seriously contested back then.
no one cared.
right on... wrote:
Non one cares about half marathons now.
Have you heard of bucket list inflation? Half-Mary is as good as a full.
BOO
I ran in the USAF Europe championship in 1979. It was a 13 miler. I'm pretty sure the half marathon didn't exist until the 80s or later.
Obvious troll, no one alive today could possibly remember 1960
No one ran a half anything in 1960.
In 1960 it was all or nothing in everything. None of this "Half Mary" crap. Just because you were drunk, and it was only a handjob didn't make you half anything. All or nothing baby.
fisky wrote:
I ran in the USAF Europe championship in 1979. It was a 13 miler. I'm pretty sure the half marathon didn't exist until the 80s or later.
According to Wikipedia, the first half-marathon world record was set in 1960. So I guess that was the first certified race.
It seems to have taken off in the mid-1960s.
Men
58:23 Zerisenay Tadese (ERI) 21 Mar 2010 Lisbon POR
58:35.0 Samuel Wanjiru Kamau-3 17 Mar 2007 The Hague NED
58:53 Samuel Wanjiru Kamau-2 09 Feb 2007 Ras Al Khaimah UAE
59:07 Paul Kosgei Malakwen (KEN) 02 Apr 2006 Berlin GER
59:15.8 Samuel Wanjiru Kamau (KEN) 11 Sep 2005 Rotterdam NED
59:17 Paul Tergat-2 04 Apr 1998 Milan ITA
59:56 Shem Kororia-2 04 Oct 1997 Kosice SVK
1:00:13 Paul Tergat (KEN) 15 Apr 1993 Milan ITA
1:00:24 Benson Masya (KEN) 03 Apr 1993 The Hague NED
1:00:46 Dionicio Ceron (MEX) 16 Sep 1990 Philadelphia PA USA
1:00:55 Mark Curp (USA) 15 Sep 1985 Philadelphia PA USA
1:01:14 Stephen Jones (WAL) 11 Aug 1985 Birmingham ENG
1:01:32 Paul Cummings (USA) 25 Sep 1983 Dayton OH USA
1:01:36 Michael Musyoki (KEN) 19 Sep 1982 Philadelphia PA USA
1:01:47 Herb Lindsay (USA) 20 Sep 1981 Manchester VT USA
1:02:16 Stan Mavis (USA) 27 Jan 1980 New Orleans LA USA
1:02:32 Kirk Pfeffer (USA) 07 Dec 1979 Las Vegas NV USA
1:02:36 Nick Rose (ENG) 14 Oct 1979 Dayton OH USA
1:02:37 Toshihiro Matsumoto (JPN) 06 Feb 1977 Beppu JPN
1:03:46 Juan Rafael Angel Perez (CRC) 08 Feb 1976 Coamo PUR
1:03:53 Derek Graham (NIR) 02 May 1970 Belfast NIR
1:04:45 Ronald Hill-2 21 Jun 1969 Freckleton ENG
1:05:42 Pete Ravald (GBR) 18 Jun 1966 Freckleton ENG
1:05:44 Ronald Hill (ENG) 18 Jun 1965 Freckleton ENG
1:07:01 Brian Hill-Cottingham (ENG) 09 Apr 1960 Romford ENG
The first women's world record was set by Kathy Gibbons in 1971. Incredibly, she managed to run 1 hour and 23 minutes without her uterus falling out.
On 18 Jan 1960 I had three PB&J sandwiches a pear and a box of stick pretzels for lunch. I also had 2 (glass)bottles of Welch's Grape Juice to wash it all down.Of course I packed that lunch every schoolday in 1960 just like in '59 and would continue to do into the spring of '62.I remember a lot about the summer of '60 including a rooftop a girl named Doreen and my first taste of Emko Foam. I remember Jean Love, yup her real name, who wanted me to wear two raincoats and get out before the rain came. I remember Butch Grunwald fighting with me because I made out with his gf on the beach in Coney Island and took her to Totono's for pizza. I remember running 10.7 for the 100yds at the 168st Armory- St Francis games maybe. I remember Frank Budd winning the Millrose 60yds in the 50Street MSG but I don't remember who won Wanamaker that year (maybe Delany). I know I had at least 2 Nedicks franks that night and some of that neon orange drink. I also remember my date that night was named Lori and that she ate her hamburgers well done. Honestly that's a no brainer because she ordered her hamburger welldone for the next 40something years .. I remember working that summer at Jessies Elm Shade in Greenville NY with fake working papers saying I was 16. Not all of us old farts are memory impaired.
Some lunatic wrote:
Obvious troll, no one alive today could possibly remember 1960