HEPS Track and Field 2012-13

Yeah, next meet isn't until January 4th (Cornell hosting the Southern Tier Invite), so not much until then.

Hope everyone has a good holiday season.

Happy New Year everyone. Indoor will be starting up again tomorrow, as Cornell will be hosting their Southern Tier Invite. Princeton will be hosting their duel meet with Navy on Sunday.

Meanwhile, Caroline Kellner (Cornell frosh) will be running in Scotland on Saturday as a member of the Team USA junior women team at the Bupa Cross Country challenge. Alumnus Lisa Stublic (Columbia) will be running on Team Europe in the elite race.

That's "dual" meet. Oops.

Why was Caroline Kellner selected for this team? She was consistently beat by Dana Giordano who also qualifies as a junior all xc season.

confusedd wrote:

Why was Caroline Kellner selected for this team? She was consistently beat by Dana Giordano who also qualifies as a junior all xc season.

I wondered about the selection too. Perhaps there was a nomination system or something. Or maybe faster people just said, "Cross is over, time for track."

That said, Kellner isn't a *bad* choice. She had a lot of xc success in high school, and did well to crack that Cornell scoring five this fall.

confusedd wrote:

Why was Caroline Kellner selected for this team? She was consistently beat by Dana Giordano who also qualifies as a junior all xc season.

If you look at the USATF site, you'll see that they select for this junior team (unlike the World Championships team where you earn a spot at USATF Juniors) based on finish at NCAA and Footlocker (they seem to want to make sure a couple high schoolers go)...But, and here is the key: to be considered, you have to be nominated and only then do they look at your resume:

So, maybe she didn't want to go and didn't want to be nominated. More likely, maybe Coogan didn't think it made sense and therefore didn't nominate her. Given Coogan's background, USATF surely would take any nomination from him very seriously. But who knows? Point is, if they selected this team based on the top four American freshmen at the NCAA, only one of the kids on this current squad would be going (the William & Mary frosh seems to be the only one on this particular team who had that distinction) and the team would NOT include either Giordano or Kellner.

Giordano did beat Kellner regularly this fall although they were usually separated by only a few places when they did compete against each other. Both have very bright futures.

Wonder if any Ivy kids will try to make the USA junior team for World Cross?

rlr wrote:

Wonder if any Ivy kids will try to make the USA junior team for World Cross?

They could also qualify as a part of the NACAC Cross Meet that is later this month (1/26), since there will be two junior races there.

And thanks to the person who tried to write as me on correcting my spelling mistake in my earlier post ("dual" vs "duel", since with my accent the meet sounds like "duel"). Although, it would be interesting to see Princeton and Navy duke it out with pistols or swords when I think about it... Don't the Navy cadets get some kind of training in hand-to-hand combat and theoretically should know how to use pistols? Eh, random tangent, sorry.

A quiet beginning to Cornell's spring semester of competition: today's lightly attended Southern Tier College Open. Not much particularly noteworthy in the men's runs and jumps, although Cornell's frosh multi-guy Ryan Hynes scored a double win with 7.03 in the 60m and 6.78m (a bit over 22ft) in the LJ.

The news was all in the throws, where Stephen Mozia upped his seasonal best a bit and is now just shy of 60ft in the shot; and Bryan Rhodes is now just *over* 60ft, with a terrific 18.30m in the weight. An outstanding throw for the freshman, who looks like a good candidate for HTC's AOW honors!

http://www.tfrrs.org/results/26754_m.html

Some fairly good marks on the women's side (http://www.tfrrs.org/results/26754_f.html). Ebolutalese Airewele, who 4x4s a lot but has rarely the open quarter, had a big 56.73 win in the 400; but the fireworks once again came in the shot, where defending (indoors and out) Heps champ Victoria Imbesi had a HUGE first-throw 15.28, a lifetime best (in or out) that cracked the 50ft mark for the first time.

Well, if HTC's listing of meet schedules is correct, the only other Ivy that's in action this weekend is Princeton. Their talent level is ungodly, so it'll be interesting to see whether Cornell holds on for any of HTC's weekly awards!

...although I suppose the Big Red's C. Kellner might get the weekly cross-country nod...

Further to Imbesi: She was also the Heps javelin champ as a frosh--not a unique combination of events, but a rare one (though perhaps eclipsed by her teammate Claire Dishong, who combines pole vault and discus!).

Princeton lost their Navy DUAL by 2 points (must have been an intense meet to lose by 2 points!). Tom Hopkins won the long jump, 200, and 400. No women's meet.

To be honest, I don't think it is fair to have AOTW with fewer than four teams (out of 16) , but I think the performances can carry over to next weekend for award consideration. Hepstrack did that in xc when Columbia was the only team racing one weekend when they were in Toledo. Who knows if they will do it again... But I feel there needs to be some kind of comparison between more than one team to warrant a top performance of the week... Just my thought.

How did Kellner do iin Scotland? Or Stublic? I can only see so much on an iPad...

Princeton/Navy results:

http://www.goprincetontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=46878&SPID=4268&DB_OEM_ID=10600&ATCLID=205877983

Princeton was obviously not at full strength (for instance, no one in the 5,000m, which was won at 15:xx), but I'm sure it was a very exciting meet. And with a triple win (including a 7.39 LJ--24+ feet), Hopkins surely has a strong claim to AOW (whenever it's awarded).

[I could only imagine the kind of decathlete he might make--he's a big guy, and I know he's gone over 5,000 points in the heptathlon--but it would be hard to justify "wasting" him in the multi at Heps, if it endangered his chances of scoring in 3-5 individual/relay events.]

I do regret that there are so few dual meets at the college level these days; I'm glad that the Ivies (and Academies) have a few. They're fun to watch and fun to compete in.

Anyway, even at half strength it looks like the Tigers have a lot of scoring power. I would not bet against them to pull off another triple crown. They may (*may*) be down a bit in the throws this year, but they have so many other guns (and the throws points at Heps are likely to be pretty well divvied up).

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As for the Ivy crossers: Kellner was fifth (a familiar place) on the US squad, and 16th out of a large field, running 15:08 for 4k--the Brits swept 1-6; Stublic was also fifth on her (European) squad, and 9th of 29, with 21:11 for 6k.

I wondered about Hopkins ever doing a decathlon. Is he a strong thrower or vertical jumper? Perhaps once he graduates he could consider it...

Thanks for the Bupa results.

The 5000 was a non-scoring event. Not a full strength Tiger squad, no Dinkins, Hollimon for instance, some students only returned to campus a day or so before the meet. The team will be competing at the Armory on Friday.

Ryan Hynes will be big for Cornell. He really came into his own his Senior year in HS and put together some really impressive performances. As a coach who watched him compete a lot, I can say he'll be exciting to watch for fans of the Big Red.

Audax wrote:

Ryan Hynes will be big for Cornell. He really came into his own his Senior year in HS and put together some really impressive performances. As a coach who watched him compete a lot, I can say he'll be exciting to watch for fans of the Big Red.

I certainly hope you're right! It'll be interesting to see his progress.

They list him at 5-11/160, and you wonder if that's big enough to be successful with the college weights; but Cornell has had Heps scorers in the multis who were smaller than that. He certainly brings good speed, which is (if you had to pick one) probably the *most* important ingredient for hept/dec success.

Which is not necessarily to say that Ryan (or his coaches) will be pointing at the decathlon for him. Should have added that...

It's just that the Big Red do a great job of providing lots of competition opportunities for their multi-ers.

Live results for the Princeton women's quad meet (with Rutgers, St Joes (PA), and St Johns) that will be held tomorrow can be found here:

http://tumeytiming.com/mm/Princwomenquad/

Princeton men and Penn will be at the Armory this weekend. Schedule can be found here:

http://www.armorytrack.com/Meet/1442/NYRR-College-Night-at-the-Armory-I-1213

I'm not sure if they are going to do live results for this or not.

Oh, and Merber and Stilin will start their indoor season tonight during the Arkansas vs Texas dual meet (held in Arkansas).

http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-track/spec-rel/011013aad.html