Makhloufi 1:43.71 PB, he looks legit at Stockholm.

in the sense he looked to have run the last 3 bends in lane 2, which is 8 - 10m extra distance & started off dead last & sprinted hard to get 3rd at bell

that was a mid/high-1'42 effort in a "perfect" race

I don't understand this comment. Nobody questioned whether he was fast. They questioned how he got fast.

Makh Daddy wrote:

Makhloufi 1:43.71 PB, he looks like he backed up his Olympic win.

Aghast wrote:

I don't understand this comment. Nobody questioned whether he was fast. They questioned how he got fast.

Makh Daddy wrote:

Makhloufi 1:43.71 PB, he looks like he backed up his Olympic win.

well there is a thing called hard training that has been known to make people faster. DUH

This guy will run sub 3:27 @ 1500m. Prepare yourselves.

douglas burke wrote:

well there is a thing called hard training that has been known to make people faster. DUH

Where do people get the mistaken impression that PEDs are primarily used as a short cut to avoid hard work? You can be lazy and cheat, and you can be lazy and run clean. You can work harder than everyone else and run clean, and you can work harder than everyone else and cheat on top of it.

Look at some of the most notorious dopers of all time and you'll find many of them were also among the hardest workers. Barry Bonds comes to mind. When Bonds reportedly starting juicing, he was already arguably the top player in the game and his work ethic was legendary. But that wasn't good enough. He wanted to try to be the best ever, and the only way to do that was to cheat, so that's what he did. And keep in mind that the legends he felt he was competing against had their own archaic form of cheating, too.

Drugs help you to recover better so you can outwork everyone and not get injured. It is hard for me the say that Makhloufi was cheating based solely off the fact that he ran well in the Olympics. He was the best sprinter in a slow race but there really needs to be more evidence.

Head on camera suggested he was not under pressure in the last 20m...and I thought not another Semenya finish!

The Quenton Cassidamius wrote:

Drugs help you to recover better so you can outwork everyone and not get injured. It is hard for me the say that Makhloufi was cheating based solely off the fact that he ran well in the Olympics. He was the best sprinter in a slow race but there really needs to be more evidence.

But the fact that you get tested all year makes it more likely for these guys to come out of the woodwork near the Olympics.

If he had already been running these times for a long time, that would be a different story. The huge PRs make me think he finished a huge doping cycle.

That is possible but I am not going to accuse him of anything because there is no evidence. Everyone in that field could have been coming off a huge doping cycle. We do not know and will probably never know.

The thing that makes me suspect is the way he dominated all three rounds. What sort of person feels the need to blow everyone out of the water in the first round? That is a HUGE, unnecessary risk. Even Usain Bolt doesn't do crap like that. You use only as much effort as is necessary in qualifying rounds, THEN you blow everyone else out of the water in the final. But he blasted both barrels all three rounds. At least on the final lap he did. Way more than necessary and a humongous red flag to me. That's not condemning evidence, but it's plenty of reason for serious suspicion.

Coach here, biding my time as I fill out my suspension.

Coach says--Makhloufi? More like Pooploofi!

epo/cera gives a runner a ten second boost in mile time....or 5 second boost in 800 m........ Makdoofis ain't nothing but a 1:43 800 runner. All of a sudden Arabs are fast, yet lousy in every other sport. Go figure.

Ummm...ever heard of El Gerrouj?

That other science experiment?

Skis are wrote:

Ummm...ever heard of El Gerrouj?

Again, only caucasians are allowed to run fast, everyone else is on drugs. Oh but the Brits from the 1980's (Coe, Cram, Ovett, Moorcroft, etc.) were also on drugs so that only makes Lydiard's athletes and Americans who are clean - how convenient.

As Makhdaddy pointed out in another thread, maybe he wanted to mess with the heads of the other runners, so when he went in the final they'd be more intimidated and discouraged. I don't have any idea what the f* he was doing, but if that was the idea, I think he can declare Mission Accomplished.

orbitboy wrote:

The thing that makes me suspect is the way he dominated all three rounds. What sort of person feels the need to blow everyone out of the water in the first round? That is a HUGE, unnecessary risk. Even Usain Bolt doesn't do crap like that. You use only as much effort as is necessary in qualifying rounds, THEN you blow everyone else out of the water in the final. But he blasted both barrels all three rounds. At least on the final lap he did. Way more than necessary and a humongous red flag to me. That's not condemning evidence, but it's plenty of reason for serious suspicion.

You may want to do some research to figure out what a Caucasian is.

Hmmm he does seem more legit now with this kind of raw leg speed.

What was his pb prior to this season?