T&F Records that will never be broken

"Never" is a pretty strong word. I reckon each and every one of these records will be broken eventually, including those of Flo Jo, the Chinese, the Eastern Europeans and Paula. Training methods will continue to evolve, drug advancements will occur and continue to stay ahead of doping controls and so on and so forth. Usain Bolt is just the beginning of what is likely to come.

To the gentleman's point that the progression in women's distance races has not played out the way some forecasters had predicted, the predictions were based on a very simple fallacy. I recall these articles: the logic was that since the women's marathon record, to take one example, had fallen from three hours to 2"21 in a short number of years, if that trend were to continue, in twenty or thirty years, the woman's WR would be 1:30 and the men's record would still be two hours plus. I hope the flaw in that logic is obvious. By the same logic, the women's pole vault record will be 25' in a few years and the men's will still not be much over 20'.

I haven't checked, but I'd suspect the most inflated records are in the weight throws and given the current drug testing protocols for steroids, some of those will be formidable. I have one further thought, again without checking the record books: the javelin is a really funny event, even with the change in the implement some years ago. Every now and then, something happens and the implement almost seems to just take off on its own aerodynamically, and a record is suddenly broken by ten feet. . Thank you.

Sergey Bubka's indoor (6.15 m) and outdoor (6.14m) pole vault records were set in 1993 and 1994, respectively, and nobody has come close. I've argued before that he could have jumped even higher had he not always gone for minimum incremental improvements (like Isinbayeva in her prime), which suggests that if he could have gone even higher, maybe someone else should at least be able to match his performances. Still, the last person to reach 6 meters is Lavillenie, and he has only managed 6.01 m in 2009, the next-highest vault to Bubka's 6.14m was 6.05, and that was in 1998.

Pole vaulting is a discipline that could undergo some technical revolution, but unless that happens, I can see Bubka's records survive another 20 years. Not quite sure what made him so "special", but one must hope his record is cleaner than most of the others mentioned here, given that he's an IOC council member and IAAF vice president.

kozz wrote:

6.15 is safe for the next 30 years

47.60 is safe until massive steroid use is legal again

So is 86.74

1:53.28, women's 800, nobody even comes close anymore

of all of those, 6.14/6.15 is the most unreachable

The 1:53.2 800 was also juiced to the max. She was incredibly talented, but aided considerably with illegal substances.

Michael Carter 81'3.5" hs shot

High School 4 x mile

I think you are naieve to think that bubka was clean. Just because he is now a member of ioc doesn't mean that he wasn't doping during the cold war. I've heard from many in the pole vault circle, that his plates in his head had begun to shift from all the roids he was on.

I would guess that Wang's 8:06.11 3000m is the safest record, mainly because it is not a contested event anymore, that and its an insane time. As one poster pointed out she ran the last 1500m at 3:54 1500m pace in that race! Flo Jos 10.49 is next (mainly do to the wind reader malfunction, only record that is wind AND drug aided). Here 21.3 is doable. Paula's 2:15 is hard, but there is so much money in the roads I view this one as a possibility.

went a trollin wrote:

Noone can touch Jim Ryuns 3:24 1500m and you would have to be a moron to believe otherwise.

Sorry to inform you, but this never happened.

douglas burke wrote:

to those who say they wont get broken because these athletes cheated.

1. some athletes currently are cheating.

2. the athletes cheating currently are using PED's far superior to what the chinese, flojo ,etc were on.

So you know exactly what the Chinese and Flojo were taking?

NICE....

Not all drugs are created equal (different bodies different reactions) and that's exactly why they have no place in sports.

douglas burke wrote:

to those who say they wont get broken because these athletes cheated.

1. some athletes currently are cheating.

2. the athletes cheating currently are using PED's far superior to what the chinese, flojo ,etc were on.

So you know exactly what the Chinese and Flojo were taking?

NICE....

Not all drugs are created equal (different bodies different reactions) and that's exactly why they have no place in sports.

anoid wrote:

o.O,

Yes that would have been INSANE! And that is the stupidest post I've seen in awhile. You must be a distance runner, to realize how far off of 10 flat that 10.49 is!

You're dense to not understand FloJo was clearly faster than 10.49

The women's sub-4:00 mile may be broken, but no one has the balls to try.

record breaker wrote: Your 2.5 mile record can easily be broken if properly timed enroute during a 5k.

Mr Humble wrote: I doubt that.

As a humble person you won't have any problem acknowledging your are not correct.

Alan Webb ran a mile in 3:53.43 to shatter Ryun's 36-year-old national high school record of 3:55.3. En route Webb passed the 1,500 mark in 3:38.26 to take down Ryun's 37-year-old high school AR of 3:39.0 set in 1964.

The women's sub-4:00 mile may be broken, but no one has the balls to try.

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Nice!

they run 5k now wrote:

My schools 2.5 mile xc record will never be broken.

If you're in the Northeast, it'll go down when your school imports the next big-deal African and makes a trip to VCP.

Online MD wrote:

Sorry to inform you, but this never happened.

that is what his '67 run in LA was worth intrinsically if given ideal conditions.

Hammer throw (Sedykh's 86.74m): WILL be bettered, in just a few years, by Elseify from Qatar (World Junior Champion in a huge WJR) -

cf.

http://iaaf.org/athletes/biographies/country=QAT/athcode=263571/index.html

Heptathlon 7291 pts. is absoluteley safe.

Javelin: Zelezny's 98.48 I regard as being 99.9 % safe,

400h (Kevin Young's 46.78 20 years ago): 99 % safe.

I consider Radcliffe's 2:15:25 NOT safe - just think of Keitany and others in perfectly paced marathons.

Paula Radcliffe's 2:15:28 marathon.

HS Girl's 3000m 9:06, Lynn Bjorgland(no relation to Garry)

Wang Junxia 10K and 3K 29:31 and 8:06.

Women's 400m 47.5

Women's 800m 1:53

El Gourij 1500m and mile

Women's 1500m, 3:50