Olympic mens 4x100m 2012

Are we going to see a sub 37 second 4x100?

That was a pretty long winded ,gas bag explanation why you pick Bolt to lose the 100.

Jamaica 37.02, USA 37.09

Sprintgeezer wrote:

In the final, Jam is just inside the USA, lane 6 to lane 7. IMHO that might suck for the USA, as Jam will have them in their sights. I don't know how the lane draw works, is 7th supposed to be the best lane?

You would know better than me, but when I sprinted in high school I preferred to be somewhere in the middle. Lane 3 or 4 on a 6 lane track. Odd that US is all the way out in 7th. The turns aren't as tight but I would want my opponents to be visible.

brogan1, I agree.

How about T&T, getting the shaft in the wilderness of lane 9? That sucks!

Hank--

I picked Bolt to lose the 100 before the competition started, and I still think the reasoning was valid. The only mistake I made was in underestimating the speed with which, and the extent to which, his medical treatments improved his performance.

I'm predicting USA in first Jamaica in 2nd, but either way I think both teams can go sub 37

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Hank--

I picked Bolt to lose the 100 before the competition started, and I still think the reasoning was valid. The only mistake I made was in underestimating the speed with which, and the extent to which, his medical treatments improved his recovery.

Fixed for you

Sub-37?

The relay is all about the quality of the exchanges.

The Jam team looks good this year, Blake is a tiny fraction faster over the 100 than last year, Frater and Carter are consistent performers, although Carter seems a step slower than last year. Although Bolt seems faster than last year, based on his 9.63, his anchor leg in the 37.04 was the best I think I have ever seen him run.

Although, I think his form in the second half of the 9.63 was equally good. I don't think he will be any better than in the 37.04

Assuming good exchanges, I think a LOT will depend on the performance of Carter on leadoff. I don't know where he's at right now. He has to be really good for them to go sub-37, anything less than excellent from him, and it's 37.x

I still don't have any faith in the USA men's ability to execute good handoffs. The 2nd and 3rd handoffs in Monaco, both involving Gay, sucked miserably. I can see the 2nd Gatlin-to-Gay exchange getting better just with improved drive from Gay, but the 3rd exchange looked awful. Bailey didn't give Gay a decent target, and Gay didn't deliver smoothly at all.

To get good on relay exchanges, you have to practice them at speed, and I don't know that the USA has done that. And, they will need to be good, not just lucky, if they want to have any hope in hell of defeating Jam.

I love the fact that Japan is always in the mix, they have great handoffs.

And the French ran Pognon--yes, Ronald Pognon--in their prelim! Is French sprinting THAT shallow? Maybe I should try out for the team next year. Last time I checked, Pognon sucked.

I have no idea what the lane assignment deal is in London, but in any HS meet (or any meet using standard assignments on Hy-Tek Meet Manager), they work out from the middle, with the far outside lane being the worst draw. So on a 9-lane track, you would expect USA in 5. I don't have a clue how top seed gets #7.

brogan1 wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

In the final, Jam is just inside the USA, lane 6 to lane 7. IMHO that might suck for the USA, as Jam will have them in their sights. I don't know how the lane draw works, is 7th supposed to be the best lane?

You would know better than me, but when I sprinted in high school I preferred to be somewhere in the middle. Lane 3 or 4 on a 6 lane track. Odd that US is all the way out in 7th. The turns aren't as tight but I would want my opponents to be visible.

Clever way of saying Bolt doped lol. But while we're at it... who here DOES NOT think Carmelita Jeter is doping? My god she's jacked

SkyArt,

As you wish. Yours is probably more accurate, as it enabled his recovery of his previous level of fitness, which enabled his performance.

But whatever.

Also, sub-37 for both teams is a bold prediction.

While sub 37 might not happen it is a possibility. The US ran 37.38 without Gay and Bailey, they are both .15-.20 faster than the guys they replaced. If they have even decent handoffs they should be close. Jamiaca ran 37.39 without Bolt who is probably .35-.40 faster than the guy he is replacing. Again if they have decent handoffs it could be close. Plus the US and JAM will have each other all the way around the track, maybe one drops the baton or blows an exchange, or maybe both do. But just maybe we get treated to the best contest in Olympic history in any event.

Someone is going to play the sweet music of

clang clang clang awwwwww

clang clang clang and or dqs are very probable when 2 great teams both want to win and don't want to settle for silver. The price of greatness and perfection is often a dropped baton. Vince Anderson told us at the Ustfccca sprint school that there is no such thing as a safe pass. 37.03 seems about right.

With Gatlin, Bailey, and Gay in the final its possible the U.S team goes 36.8.

I don't think its possible for Jamaica to go sub 37.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

SkyArt,

As you wish. Yours is probably more accurate, as it enabled his recovery of his previous level of fitness, which enabled his performance.

But whatever.

You don't know the extent of his injuries, so your assumption that only some type of drug could heal him fast enough is flawed, especially since you, and most likely the rest of the world don't have any detailed information on that what actually happened.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Also, sub-37 for both teams is a bold prediction.

Just subbing in the difference in speed of the main runners and the subs it's possible. Will it happen, who knows, I just think it will (or maybe hoping is more accurate)

Who are the 4 USA runners in the final

You can't just plug in the difference in open 100 times to make the sub-37 argument. How much faster are the "A" team guys from a flying start? We don't have those numbers before us... and will they matter as not everyone runs exactly 100 meters in this relay? How good will the handoffs with Gay be?

A lot of factors go into it. All I know is this... 2012 IN LONDON WILL BE AN EPIC FINISH IF BOTH ANCHORS (Jam & USA)GET THE BATON. Can't wait to see it!

You can still make a rough estimate, which is what most people have done. Plus people like Bolt and Gay are better from a flying start