Fantastic Men's 800 at Monaco

Montesquieu wrote:Symmonds, on the other hand, went to the back, ran in the second lane around two turns, and tried to come from behind. When will he ever learn one can't do that at the international level.

have to re-check vid

if that's true, then he ran 7 - 8m extra distance

woud indicate he is in

1'42.7/1'42.8

shape if he'd stuck to the kerb

Bad calculation if he had wanted to be stuck to the kerb it means he would have to run faster to get to the kerb and that is not his style. It will cook him.

So the time he got is the best he could get. Athletes who get the kerb are the ones who run faster at the start of the race, His style of finishing fast, means he will always have to run an extra 10 m. We can not extrapolate everything

nonsense

if you run 807 - 808m instead of 800 in 1'43.7, you are capable of 1'42.7/1'42.8 if you run it ideally

Nothing is ideal in a race, everything is real. If he wanted to the kerb in a REAL race it means he has to go fast. That is not his style and he will fade badly. His style in a race means he will run an extra 8 meter and that is the time he gets. Get it genius

moron

what part of (800/808)*1'43.7 your peabrain not comprehend ???

At the bell, Symmonds was in about eighth place. In a first-rate 800, one cannot do that and expect to win.

ventolin^3 wrote:

Montesquieu wrote:Symmonds, on the other hand, went to the back, ran in the second lane around two turns, and tried to come from behind. When will he ever learn one can't do that at the international level.

have to re-check vid

if that's true, then he ran 7 - 8m extra distance

woud indicate he is in

1'42.7/1'42.8

shape if he'd stuck to the kerb

[quote]Montesquieu wrote:At the bell, Symmonds was in about eighth place. In a first-rate 800, one cannot do that and expect to win.[quote]

no one in that field was better than low-1'43 currently

he couda expected to contend, perhaps even win this, even with his usual tactics, but had more traffic than expected

here is a vid of how he wouda expected the field to open up without host of 1'42ers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H0Isj2jU0I

Genius, what part of the fact that no race is IDEAL rather all races are run under real conditions don't you comprehend?

ventolin^3 wrote:

moron

what part of (800/808)*1'43.7 your peabrain not comprehend ???

When people say that a runner ran in lane 2 they are generally saying something that is not true. It is usually more accurate to say that they ran outside of another runner (about 1/2 a lane's worth) or on the shoulder of another (1/4 of a lane's worth). People quite consistently exaggerate the extra distance that these folks run.

Most of the people who exaggerate this are normally immune to reasonable discussion about the subject (see above). They go off on rants... and here it comes from the resident genius

There is another possibility wrote:

When people say that a runner ran in lane 2 they are generally saying something that is not true. It is usually more accurate to say that they ran outside of another runner (about 1/2 a lane's worth) or on the shoulder of another (1/4 of a lane's worth). People quite consistently exaggerate the extra distance that these folks run.

[quote]math major wrote:Genius, what part of the fact that no race is IDEAL rather all races are run under real conditions don't you comprehend? [quote]ventolin^3 wrote:

idiot

even if not perfect race, he has enough leeway to <1'43

math major wrote:Most of the people who exaggerate this are normally immune to reasonable discussion about the subject (see above). They go off on rants... and here it comes from the resident genius[quote]There is another possibility wrote:

idiot

what part of

"lets see the vid" to ascertain how much lane 2 running he did doesn't your peabrain not comprehend ?

ventolin^3 wrote:

idiot

moron

...ad nauseam

Have you ever considered how you come across to a neutral observer? Do you think this adds force to your argument? Or that it's somehow endearing?

I can assure you neither is the case. Although I'll admit there's a bit of entertainment value.

This an awesome result going into the games... also Kaki still not looking too good, even better chance for Symmonds.

He might be in 1'42 high shape based off that but if that were the case then he'd also have to be able to magically pass everyone while running 800m which is most likely NOT going to happen. How about next time he

a) positions himself better

b) simply runs faster

dkfklsdnfsdf wrote:He might be in 1'42 high shape based off that but if that were the case then he'd also have to be able to magically pass everyone while running 800m which is most likely NOT going to happen. How about next time he

a) positions himself better

A+

b) simply runs faster

B/B-

Looking GOOD Duane!

Looking good doesn't quite cover it. Duane is now the 5th fastest in the world this year, and USA now has a realistic shot at a medal. He just ran several tenths faster than Symmonds' PR, which Nick has plateaued at for the past 4 years.

Enough of the obnoxious BS boasting from the Oregon trash. The simple fact is that Solomon ran 1:43.44 and finished third, while Symmonds didn't and finished fifth.

Symmonds can run 1:42-point when he steps onto a track and does it.

Simmons ran on the outside of Lane 1 most of the way, the distance that he ran in lane 2 was very nominal. The OP either has not watched the race, or is exaggerating. Good race by both Solomon and Symmonds, both appear to be peaking at the right time.