The Animal Within wrote:
Hs elite girls should be 30 sec within the boys record. 4:22 is equal. Running 50ish seconds off the boys show how pathetic girl racing is.
Like Cami Chapus' mile time, this also ranks on the Top Ten of stupidest things ever written on Letsrun.
haha wrote:
The Animal Within wrote:Hs elite girls should be 30 sec within the boys record. 4:22 is equal. Running 50ish seconds off the boys show how pathetic girl racing is.
Like Cami Chapus' mile time, this also ranks on the Top Ten of stupidest things ever written on Letsrun.
Well, the world records are 29 seconds apart at the mile, and 1 minute apart at 2 miles. However, the high school records are 40+ seconds apart for the mile, and about 90 seconds for the 2 mile. Why?
An excellent question, but it is what it is... the world records are, in general, about 10% difference between men and women. High school records are more like 12-14% different at any distance beyond 200m (11.8% for 400m, 11.3% for 800m, 15.1% for 1500m/1600m/Mile bests, 14.0% for 3k/3200m/2Mile bests, 14.2% for 5k, 13.2% for 10k). That also fits in more closely with what we see every year in both cross country and track at the high school level. So, either the womens world records are stronger than the mens, or girls just don't see as much depth, don't get the proper training, or have enough experience to run as well as their male counterparts in high school...
The Animal Within wrote:
Hs elite girls should be 30 sec within the boys record. 4:22 is equal. Running 50ish seconds off the boys show how pathetic girl racing is.
You are the idiot within.
Are you really this naive? How about you compare American records, or yearly bests by Americans and then recheck those numbers. If you really don't know why the Chinese women or the Eastern Bloc women might have records closer to the men's than high school girls do the the boys you need to take a long hard look at the history of this sport. (And perhaps a picture of Jarmila Kratochvilova. (no idea how to actually spell that name)).
watchout wrote:
An excellent question, but it is what it is... the world records are, in general, about 10% difference between men and women. High school records are more like 12-14% different at any distance beyond 200m (11.8% for 400m, 11.3% for 800m, 15.1% for 1500m/1600m/Mile bests, 14.0% for 3k/3200m/2Mile bests, 14.2% for 5k, 13.2% for 10k). That also fits in more closely with what we see every year in both cross country and track at the high school level. So, either the womens world records are stronger than the mens, or girls just don't see as much depth, don't get the proper training, or have enough experience to run as well as their male counterparts in high school...
Lame Duck wrote:
Are you really this naive? How about you compare American records, or yearly bests by Americans and then recheck those numbers. If you really don't know why the Chinese women or the Eastern Bloc women might have records closer to the men's than high school girls do the the boys you need to take a long hard look at the history of this sport. (And perhaps a picture of Jarmila Kratochvilova. (no idea how to actually spell that name)).
Only looking at records 400m+ (because I don't want to take the time to correct for wind)
Oceanic Area Records average 88.7%... and it seems to me like New Zealand/Australia have produced more great men distance runners than women.
North American Area Records average 88.5%, and worth noting that at 87.4%, the 5k is the only one under 88.2%
South American Area Records averages 87.1%, and there haven't really been any notable women distance runners (but there have been a few men).
Africa's Area Records averages 88.4%, where the men have been great (greater than the women? I guess that's a matter of opinion... but it seems like Bekele was pretty damn good)... worth noting that the 5k record is at 89.0%.
So, yes, it does seem to me like averaging ~86.0-86.5% makes the girls HS records seem a little weaker than the boys.