Pull a "Glenn Randall" (GR)

I was sort of incorrect above when I said he was back in 10th and moved up in the US 50K championships a few years back. What actually happened (had to dig into my blog to find it) in that race was that Randall broke a pole on the first lap fell far back, got a new pole and moved into the lead pack, and then took the lead against the likes of Canadian Ivan Babikov (who was near the top of World Cup rankings) and a bunch of US Olympians by the third lap. At the end of the day Randall hung for third in the US. If this had been a marathon championship it would have been a huge deal. He didn't get much notoriety, other than some mention in Fasterskier.

The fact that you don't see the difference between a 2:20 guy and a 2:55 guy pulling this douchey stunt makes me think you're the moron.

Glenn's theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7MSSPNH9o

LD_Master wrote:

You must be that guy from Runnersworld.

One thing is for sure. If you defend this guy's idiotic stunt, you should certainly be staying over on the runnersworld boards!

Back when I was getting sent the full split files from some of the majors I noticed a pretty high percentage of males in the 20-30 range that were setting half marathon PR's and fading quite spectacularly in the 2nd half. The only thing unique about Glenn's pacing for his age group was he had the ability to lead for a period of time. Considering his first half/2nd half ratio was in the majority for males of his age the criticism is totally overblown. If he had hung on everyone around here would be cheering his balliness.

Sure, Glenn could have wiser choices, he could have practiced his goal pace more, he could have adjusted for the weather, on and on. So he knows that now, and sometimes the way to make the lesson a bit more enduring is to ramp up either the embarrassment or pain factor.

Hell, you can't always find that wall without hitting it once or twice. It wasn't like he walked in, so give the guy some credit for going for it. It's not like this was his only chance and he blew it.

Keith Stone wrote:

The only thing unique about Glenn's pacing for his age group was he had the ability to lead for a period of time. Considering his first half/2nd half ratio was in the majority for males of his age the criticism is totally overblown. If he had hung on everyone around here would be cheering his balliness.

And another person chimes in who thinks there's no difference between a 2:20 guy and 2:45 guy. You dorks seem to not understand the point as evidenced by your last sentence here -- he had absolutely ZERO chance of hanging on.

Well, he went out and led some mountain run, so maybe it makes sense that he should lead a world marathon major. I mean, not just be in the lead pack where he has no business, but LEAD the frickin thing! No doubt old Glenn will be running sub-2:10 real soon. So yeah, I take it back. So ballsy.

run on sentence guy wrote:

The fact that you don't see the difference between a 2:20 guy and a 2:55 guy pulling this douchey stunt makes me think you're the moron.

A 2:55 guy COULDN'T pull "this douchey stunt." Not step for step. But if he pulled the equivalent, he'd go unnoticed and avoid the "douche" label despite behaving, in essence, exactly the same way. He'd fade like hell, but not from the front of the race.

What YOU don't get is that there are plenty of 2:20 guys who are also fools in terms of their strategy.

Obviously you are not smart enough to be taking part in this discussion. Please remove yourself from it, and, if it's convenient, from life itself.

Saul Wellingood wrote:

run on sentence guy wrote:

The fact that you don't see the difference between a 2:20 guy and a 2:55 guy pulling this douchey stunt makes me think you're the moron.

A 2:55 guy COULDN'T pull "this douchey stunt." Not step for step. But if he pulled the equivalent, he'd go unnoticed and avoid the "douche" label despite behaving, in essence, exactly the same way. He'd fade like hell, but not from the front of the race.

What YOU don't get is that there are plenty of 2:20 guys who are also fools in terms of their strategy.

Obviously you are not smart enough to be taking part in this discussion. Please remove yourself from it, and, if it's convenient, from life itself.

There are tons of 2:20 guys that could lead the first several miles of a major marathon wearing a gay tri suit but they don't because they know how douchey it would be.

You think Glen's offense boils down to poor strategy when it really boils down to "full fledged look at me douchery" however you are too stupid to see the difference.