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    • Lenny Leonard
      • 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 12:12AM
      • Lenny Leonard
      • I could only find one of them on iaaf.org:


        Maiyo Jonathan Kiplimo KEN
        Sex Weight Height Date of Birth Place of birth
        M 01/01/1988
        Personal Best - Outdoor
        Performance Wind Place Date
        10 Kilometres 27:45 Rotterdam 13/09/2009
        Half Marathon 59:08 Rotterdam 13/09/2009
        Marathon 2:12:45 Rotterdam 11/04/2010

        So big PR for the "24" year old but more in line with his half Pr.
    • agoza
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 12:26AM - in reply to Lenny Leonard
      • agoza
      • Ayele Abshero was world Junior XC champion in 2009. He ran 59:42 for HM and defeated K. Bekele over 15K in 2008.

        Markos Geneti was world indoor bronze medallist in 2004. He beat Gebrselassie over 2 Miles indoor in 2004 and won Los Angeles marathon last year in 2:06.

        Tadeses Tola ran 59:49 for HM and 2:06 for marathon. He won Paris in 2010, was second in frankfurt in 2010 after Wilson Kipsang and fourth in eindhoven last october.

        Dino Sefir Kamal ran 59:42 for HM, was third in OTTAWA marathon last year and 12th in World XC champ.
    • Lenny Leonard
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 12:40AM - in reply to agoza
      • Lenny Leonard
      • I appreciate you clearing this up. Why were they overlooked in the preview?
    • MJM
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 1:57AM - in reply to Wino Hobo
      • MJM
      • What happened to all the Kenyans? Only 1 in top 10. Ethiopia strikes back.
    • Boss T
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 3:41AM - in reply to Lenny Leonard
      • Boss T
      • Lenny Leonard wrote:
        I appreciate you clearing this up. Why were they overlooked in the preview?
        They weren't. Ethiopians have first, second and third names. Most of the time, they're referred to by their first and second names. For this race, they were entered as their first and third and names.
    • sub3over40
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 6:04AM - in reply to Lenny Leonard
      • sub3over40
      • I am not surprised that runners can run under 2:05. I am shocked at how many now are regularly running under 2:05. You need to be a sub 2:05 man to be in the top tier now and there are lots of them! I think 2 hours will be broken in my lifetime.
    • kudzurunner
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 6:34AM - in reply to Lenny Leonard
      • kudzurunner
      • Hall might as well just give it up. Become a short order cook and specialize in French toast. Add a dash of cinnamon to the eggs and milk and they'll come back for more. Or thump a bible somewhere.

        He's so done.
    • Not so Precious
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 6:39AM - in reply to kudzurunner
      • Not so Precious
      • Right NOW Hall will still receive more appearance money than the top 3 combined from Daegu. Soory folks but those are the facts.
    • Bobby1
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 6:55AM - in reply to Lenny Leonard
      • Bobby1
      • And know one suspects drugs as a reason for the SUDDEN increase in marathon speeds?
    • Boss T
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 7:09AM - in reply to Bobby1
      • Boss T
      • Bobby1 wrote:
        And know one suspects drugs as a reason for the SUDDEN increase in marathon speeds?
        Ten years ago, there were more opportunities to compete at 10000m, and even 5000m. Now, if you're a 13:00 or 26:50 man, even a 19 year old, why waste your time if you're not winning medals? You could run 13:00 for 200€ or you could take that speed to the marathon and take a shot at winning $250,000 like Abshero did today. Or even $25,000 at a lower level marathon. It's not a hard choice.
    • runn
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:03AM - in reply to kudzurunner
      • runn
      • kudzurunner wrote:
        Hall might as well just give it up. Become a short order cook and specialize in French toast. Add a dash of cinnamon to the eggs and milk and they'll come back for more. Or thump a bible somewhere.

        He's so done.
        Should every player on every team who didn't make it to the Super Bowl give up?
        I don't get that attitude by some (I assume very young and naive posters) that there should only be a very small group of runners- the ones with a chance to win a medal.
    • Beaver Retriever
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:10AM - in reply to Boss T
      • Beaver Retriever
      • Yes, a new era in marathoning. Start young and go for the $$$. Seems though, most of the big names disappear at the Olympics (testing?). Martin Lel finishing 5th and not breaking 2:10 last Olympics. We will see what happens this year with the slew of sub 2:05ers that should toe the line.
    • Boss T
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:17AM - in reply to Beaver Retriever
      • Boss T
      • Beaver Retriever wrote:
        Yes, a new era in marathoning. Start young and go for the $$$. Seems though, most of the big names disappear at the Olympics (testing?). Martin Lel finishing 5th and not breaking 2:10 last Olympics. We will see what happens this year with the slew of sub 2:05ers that should toe the line.
        The last two Olympics weren't exactly run in ideal conditions. And it's a marathon. And you had two guys who didn't fall off hard in the heat in Beijing. Lel was 24 seconds away from a medal in Beijing. Hardly a failure.
    • Nutella1
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:18AM - in reply to runn
      • Nutella1
      • Alright, I am not Ventolin^3 but I also can make predictions:

        First the facts:
        - Fastest Marathon debut ever on a legal course
        - guy is still young (around 21....well, you never know)
        - Dubai is always warm weather, race temp >60F
        - pacing was off/all over the place

        There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this guy is a thread for the WR, unless he becomes another Duncan Kibet...
    • yyy
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:20AM - in reply to Bobby1
      • yyy
      • obviously a combo of more talent going to the roads (money)
        and new undetected drugs. don't be naive.
    • Boss T
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:27AM - in reply to yyy
      • Boss T
      • yyy wrote:
        obviously a combo of more talent going to the roads (money)
        and new undetected drugs. don't be naive.
        I love that: a 47 second high school 400m runner trains like a middle distance runner and runs 3:53 and it's the rebirth of American distance running, but a 21 year old world junior cross country champion and 59:42 (and probably better than that) man runs 2:04:22 and it's some magic bean that's just been imagined.
    • Freelove
      • RE: 4 guys I've never heard of go sub 2:05 in Dubai 1/27/2012 8:40AM - in reply to yyy
      • Freelove
      • The guys running these times don't have ridiculous track PRs. There are no drastically new drugs, and if there are they're worse than the old ones. The marathon has exploded because there's lots of money on the roads and next to none on the track.