I can't wait to see more pictures of the Occupiers geting physically beat down by the cops!

The people who are cheering on the police attacking a "mostly non-violent group" (according to Mayor Bloomberg) today are the same type of people who were cheering police turning water cannons on people demanding civil rights in the south, the Boston Massacre, saying more college students should have been killed at Kent State and Jackson State, wish more protesters were dying in Syria and cheered as tanks rolled into Tianamen Square.

Not only are they anti-American, they are morally repugnant. Fortunately, on LetsRun they can cheer for barbarity behind the vail of anonymity because, simply put, these are not values that a moral person would want to take credit for—akin to demanding more genocide.

Vespazian wrote:

Who's "you"? You dont even know who you're talking to.

I didn't write it the other guy did. I was just trying to help you on what he meant since you're so dense.

Whatever you say, kid.

Athanius wrote:

And who on Earth would think that OWS was paying for the police to come down and thrown them in jail? Yea, let's take up a collection for OWS to have more police present so we can throw more of them in jail. Where can I donate to that cause?

Pretty sure he was referring to taxes paying for government, because the police are an organ of the government taxes pay for the police. As everybody, including OWS protesters, pay taxes the OWS protesters are paying the police.

It is hardly a new, original, or complicated argument and one that I thought most Americans today would be familiar with, but apparently not.

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Athanius wrote:

And who on Earth would think that OWS was paying for the police to come down and thrown them in jail? Yea, let's take up a collection for OWS to have more police present so we can throw more of them in jail. Where can I donate to that cause?

Pretty sure he was referring to taxes paying for government, because the police are an organ of the government taxes pay for the police. As everybody, including OWS protesters, pay taxes the OWS protesters are paying the police.

It is hardly a new, original, or complicated argument and one that I thought most Americans today would be familiar with, but apparently not.

Do yourself a favor. Go back and follow the thread, then speak.

Pray tell: What did I miss that made you think that by saying OWS is paying the police, that that actually meant physically handing the police money they have raised?

Or are your delusions and strawmen so precious for you to that you would rather make vague ill-informed statements rather than actually discussion an issue?

&*%^ wrote:

I see a bunch of ordinary citizens exercising their right to speak, with one &^%& head cop deciding that he'll hide behind a badge to spray a kid with pepper spray, point blank in the face.

If you celebrate this, get the &^&!! out of America, now.

The photo is only one frame. But a few things I noted in that pic. She is pretty darn close to the police, closer than the other protesters. I can't see a lot of faces but hers is the most animated. Also note that the bearded buy in the hat behind her has his hand around her arm and by the angle of her arm he appears to be pulling her back.

My guess is that she was given plenty of warning and was probably very aggressive and ignored repeated direct orders of an officer of the law.

Hence the pepper spray blast.

Or was Peter North doing a little filming?

Morton Phalange wrote:

The photo is only one frame. But a few things I noted in that pic. She is pretty darn close to the police, closer than the other protesters. I can't see a lot of faces but hers is the most animated. Also note that the bearded buy in the hat behind her has his hand around her arm and by the angle of her arm he appears to be pulling her back.

My guess is that she was given plenty of warning and was probably very aggressive and ignored repeated direct orders of an officer of the law.

Hence the pepper spray blast.

Or was Peter North doing a little filming?

Her face is the most animated? She is the only one in the photo being hit in the face with pepper spray, how do you expect her to look?

Even if you think a highly animated woman who is substantially shorter than the everyone else around her, while being pulled back is some sort of threat to a wall of police in full riot gear (I seem to remember something about how sticks and stones (she had neither) may break my bones but names will never hurt me)—how do you rationalize shooting an 84 year-old woman in the face with pepper spray?

I was referring to the young ubertwat in the other picture. If she was being pulled back then the other OWS pin heads saw something wrong with something she was doing.

Use your brain. We saw one frame. as to your assertion that she was animated due to the pepper spray?

Please, don't be a moron. Her actions toward the police and being restrained by a compatriot preceded the spice blast, not vice versa.

Why don't you go there, get on the front line, taunt the Po-Po, get in their faces, ignore their warnings, and see what happens.

nameplate wrote:

Mayor Bloomberg needs to get this message:

Screw us and we multiply.

It is just the way reproduction works. Pretty awesome metaphor.

Brilliant.

There are two issues here:

First, you are assuming facts without any support. All we have is a photo of her being hit in the fact by pepper spray. From that you want to draw the conclusion that she was animated before the fact. That is unjustified. Getting hit in the face with pepper spray justifies a substantial amount of animation—and there is nothing to suggest what she was like before.

Second, and more important is whether the actions by the police were necessary and proportionate. Even if she was yelling at the police and calling them every dirty name in the book their job is to be professional and to contain the protest and ensure they are not injured. As there is a gap between the protesters and the police it does not seem they were challenging the containment.

So was anybody in danger? The police were 2-3 rows deep in full riot gear including kevlar vests, helmets, batons, and pepper spray. The "largely peaceful" (see title of gallery) protesters were unarmed and the the woman was substantially shorter than the people around her. What threat did she pose to the police that would justify any use of force? Yelling at the police is not a threat.

As I stated earlier, people like the OP and yourself who say you do it and see what happens miss the point. It is like telling students at Kent State and Jackson state, "Why don't you stage a protest when the national guard arrives and see what happens." The abuse or repeated abuse of power does not justify it. Might as well tell the people protesting in Syria: why don't you go out there and see what happens to attempt to prove that Assad is right in killing 3,000+ unarmed civilians.

Morton Phalange wrote:

I was referring to the young ubertwat in the other picture. If she was being pulled back then the other OWS pin heads saw something wrong with something she was doing.

Use your brain. We saw one frame. as to your assertion that she was animated due to the pepper spray?

Please, don't be a moron. Her actions toward the police and being restrained by a compatriot preceded the spice blast, not vice versa.

Why don't you go there, get on the front line, taunt the Po-Po, get in their faces, ignore their warnings, and see what happens.

If that is what you are asserting, then the police office using the pepper spray has broken the guidlines for its use; verbally taunting a police officer is not "engaging in violence or resisting":

So, by your own admission, the police officer was assaulting the protester, and should be tried for that crime.

If you go against the Ideological State Apparatus you gotta take your beat down from the Repressive State Apparatus. You may be right. You may even win! But those are the rules.

Enjoy!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/18/occupy-movement-iconic-image-martyrdom

This is the most retarded post ive seen today. You really have a stereotypical view of the protesters created by bordeline retarded republicans and fox news. You should take a look into who the protesters are, not the few hippies that gets the attention.

For example, there are more people with a job among the occupy wall street protesters than there is in the tea party. Who said hippies again?

Numerous videos have shown cops spraying pepper spray, beating up protesters, trowing flash grenades against a hurt vet and those trying to help him, and all of the videos shows the protesters did nothing but protest, peacefully.

Your comment is a shame and you are one of the reasons this country is going down the f*cking drains. Wake the f*ck up and do some change, nothing will fix it self by everyone just sitting on their ass as usual.

Interesting that you felt the need to share your desire publically.Would you personally like to aggress toward the occupiers or just watch from the safe haven of your computer?

asdfasdf wrote:

I hope there are lots of pictures online.

Morton Phalange wrote:

Why don't you go there, get on the front line, taunt the Po-Po, get in their faces, ignore their warnings, and see what happens.

You apparently have never seen the police in action.

This is sickening. These UC Davis students are sitting down nonviolently and the campus police officer just sprays them like bugs. If this isn't fascist behavior then I don't know what is. The chancellor is being called upon to resign. The officer should be fired immediately. There is no justification at all for the action. There was no threat to the officer. In fact, the use of force is rarely questioned beyond civilian review boards but the actual rulings themselves usually side with the police. Maybe now more people, other than minorities, will see exactly how the police can act and begin putting police in their proper place at the feet of the people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJmmnMkuEM&feature=youtu.be

There are a few police heroes though. Here is a Philly police captain Ray Lewis who was handcuffed in New York objecting to the use of force by NYPD officers. Good for him. Wish there were more officers who would say 'No, I will not harm my brother' unless he is to going to harm himself or someone else. Instead officers are brutalizing people because a park is dirty! How obscene is that when people are starving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocdnl4XlTOU&feature=player_embedded

Our police are quick to beat down dissent for their corporate masters. How ironic it is then that now in Tahrir Square in Cairo, again, the Egyptians are rising up against their military and police, WHO ARE NOT BEATING THEM! Maybe they will. But they just emerged from decades of dictatorship and are treated better than Americans. What does this say about US!