That is a great analogy. I've never heard that before, but what an obvious, clear example for that type of situation. I'm stealing that to use on my kids someday. Thanks.
That is a great analogy. I've never heard that before, but what an obvious, clear example for that type of situation. I'm stealing that to use on my kids someday. Thanks.
malmo wrote:
If you aren't enjoying what you are doing then stop immediately.
Well said.
malmo wrote:
I know that adds up to 130, but doing consistent 20 a day for six days is "140" in my book.
Huh?
good advice, confusing math wrote:
malmo wrote:I know that adds up to 130, but doing consistent 20 a day for six days is "140" in my book.
Huh?
What i believe he means is the effort is equivalent to 140. Sure, it's ten miles less, but 130 is pretty close to 140 cumulatively.
But, I am but an ignorant poster on anonymous forums. Have the man tell you himself
malmo wrote:
The only memorable workout story I could even think of was 2 days (actually 54 hours) after running a 2:12 marathon, I ran a hill workout with the University of Oregon team. The group included at least 6 sub 4:00 milers. I simply caned them. Only NCAA Steeplechase champion Dan Nelson managed to make it part way up the hill with me. Part of the way....
What was the point of doing the hill workout so soon after a marathon?
Because I wanted to.
why not try consistent 100 mile weeks for months before going toward 110, and 110s before 120s, etc.?
jjjjjjjjjjj wrote:
why not try consistent 100 mile weeks for months before going toward 110, and 110s before 120s, etc.?
Are you nuts? If he wants to run 140 mpw he needs to do it. Remaining at 100mpw for months ain't gonna get him there.
Malmo, it's good to have you back. This message board is nearly pointless when you're not posting.
The most important aspect of training is to enjoy it; as soon as it's drudgery, then the mind can't be passionate, and then performance will certainly drop. I think Malmo's point is that he had an opportunity to train with some pretty good guys, which he would find fun/challenging, so he did it. He didn't let some static schedule, or neuvo physio guru discourage him from that experience. The second point would be ... see what high mileage allows for? The body can do amazing things when high mileage and doubles are employed, even laying out a quality session 54 hours after dropping 5 flat pace for a marathon.
If you take a good look at Malmo's logs, there are lots of weeks of high miles ... but when he had to drop down due to an illness, or injury, he did so. He did the work, but listened to his body. THAT should be important point #2, after the whole having fun thing is taken care of.
Malmo, what are you thoughts on high mileage for 800/miler? Predominantly a miler that runs 5k's and a lot of 800's.
Some of the workouts would be a bit quick but does mileage help the "miler"? I know it helps, but the 140^ a week. How high is to high?
Thanks
shorter races wrote:
Malmo, what are you thoughts on high mileage for 800/miler? Predominantly a miler that runs 5k's and a lot of 800's.
Some of the workouts would be a bit quick but does mileage help the "miler"? I know it helps, but the 140^ a week. How high is to high?
Thanks
I'm pretty sure malmo would say something like run appropriate mileage to the event your training for.
shorter races wrote:
Malmo, what are you thoughts on high mileage for 800/miler? Predominantly a miler that runs 5k's and a lot of 800's.
Some of the workouts would be a bit quick but does mileage help the "miler"? I know it helps, but the 140^ a week. How high is to high?
Thanks
The more you can handle, while keeping the quality there, and avoiding the pitfalls overtraining, the better. That number is going to be different for everyone.
I find that that I can still run 90+ while running 2 solid workouts a week with a 3rd light workout (hills) and a longer run.
I'd like to b 110-120 in the next year. Still running 8's though! I seem to be improving off of increasing mileage.