worst state for hs xc/track?

Rhode Island?

Nah it's probably some state in the south like mississippi. A bunch of those southern states have really slow state championship winning times, plus mississippi is the fattest state.

ivory tower elitist wrote:

Nah it's probably some state in the south like mississippi. A bunch of those southern states have really slow state championship winning times, plus mississippi is the fattest state.

Sprint times/jump marks beg to differ.

Places weak in one regard are going to be good in another.

A small state like Deleware/Rhode Island is a good choice, but I'd go for a poorly populated state with harsher weather, like Wyoming, Alaska, North Dakota, Montana.

Are you kidding me? Everyone in rhode island trains and races in five fingers? The five fingers alone take minutes off everyone's prs. And also nobody gets injured...ever

I don't know how its larger school divisions do but if I remember correctly Louisiana is the state where that kid won 1A states in Jordans.

What are you talking about? The five fingers? Where/what is that?

South Carolina had the kid with the jordans. Good call.

I think Louisiana and Mississippi are pretty decent at track.

New Hampshire, Hawaii, Rhode Island and Vermont are the worst.

I am too lazy to search all of the states, but I will prove Rhode Island is much better than Vermont. Here are the differences in winning times at the state meet. Minus means Rhode Island is faster and plus means Vermont is faster.

100m: -.41

200m: -.69

400m: -1.9

800m: -5.07

1500m: -12.42

3000m: -35.16

110h: -.68

300h: -.94

4x100: -1.26

4x400: -6.52

4x800: -20.18

HJ: +4 in. (so RI was 4 in. higher)

PV: -1 ft. ( so VT was 1 ft higher)

LJ: +18 in.

TJ - 16 in.

SP: +10 ft 6 in.

DT: +33 ft

JT: -1 ft

and Vermont is too scared to do the hammer throw

So its not even close. Clearly Rhode Island won't do well against California or Texas, but we are not the worst. Now the burden is on Vermont to prove superiority over some other weak state.

Oklahoma has to be one of the slower states for xc. The winners for each divison haven't broken 16:00 in quite a while.

Oklahoma has to be one of the slower states for xc. The winners for each divison haven't broken 16:00 in quite a while.

what is it? wrote:

time-wise, what state is the slowest?

It might be Oregon. Not for slow times overall but for having 6 school classifications for such a small state and for most meets begin dual-meets. The top kids never face off.

sin2 wrote:

Oklahoma has to be one of the slower states for xc. The winners for each divison haven't broken 16:00 in quite a while.

That course is basically all up hill.

Nebraska

As someone who ran in New England, I can say that Vermont is definitively the worst state there. At least in indoor New England, they would routinely enter 4x800's whose time was slower than the top 3200 runners.

Its gotta be one of the Southern States. Too hot for most people to train, everybody wants to be a football player, and lots of fat people. It could also be like North Dakota some years maybe. I feel like there's just nobody up there.

No one's ever broken 16:00 at the Maryland State Meet, but that's just because the course is ridiculously hard.

Centro ran 16:02.

New hampshire has actually had some very fast runners. Russell Brown, Francis Hernandez, Matt Downin, John Mortimer, etc.

actually, north dakota, for its amount of people is not a terrible state per se. the state course is typically pretty hilly and sometimes long. track seasons can be slow due to winters but cross country season is much better. they also have bismarck (number 25 in the nation and a frequent contender in the heartland). they are by no means a "fast" state though. montana and wyoming, in my opinion, are some of the slowest states.

My bad. He won in 17 flat with Jordans which is an impressive performance for a guy who doesn't view xc as his main sport, however to win states with that time is ridiculous and their state meet is an all comers meet. Part of what makes the state meet competitive in the best states is the rigors of just getting there. I know it is just their small school's division but South Carolina has to be one of the worst.