Pathetic Men's 1500!

Video: http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?do=videos&year=2011&folder_id=2100&event_id=49&pg=1&offset=2#video

Everyone on here saying how awesome it was to see C W-T go for it, just ask yourself how that worked out for her. that means if you don't have to ability to make the team from the front, don't do it. however, if you're wheating, you should go drop everybody but lagat, who cares if you get outkicked for the win, at least you're on the team.

cluezzz wrote:

This is embarrassing. Let's give Wurth-Thomas the men's spot. She at least went out in 62! They are still behind Christin Wurth at 800. What a bunch of wussies!!!

Pathetic is being kind. Gee whiz, these guys can run no better than a 4:04 equivalent mile? That's HS bullshit. Frankly, all the mens middle and distance races were really weak. Kudos to the women though - showed what they are made of. All those ladies showed some guts from the 1500 up.

Scott 2348792398427 wrote:

Its a race people.

Bingo. It is about race.

If the question is which race was more exciting for fans, it was the women's. Everyone at Hayward was talking about whether CWT could hold on, was shocked at how far ahead she was, etc. But obviously she didn't hold on, so it was a bad choice, unless she knew she couldn't win a kicker's race.

For the men, everyone around me was stunned at how slow it was, with plenty of jokes about how they were trailing the women. It worked for the top 3, but I'm sure Wheating, Leer and Torrence which the race had been a little different.

I don't see the big deal...the tour de france is very popular and they all ride slow in a pack then sprint for a win.

nickHpaulson wrote:

For the men, everyone around me was stunned at how slow it was, with plenty of jokes about how they were trailing the women. It worked for the top 3, but I'm sure Wheating, Leer and Torrence which the race had been a little different.

Well, that's what Wheating and the boys get for letting the pace lag. Wheating would have faired much better by taking a risk - taking the lead from 1000 meters out and pushing the pace. Instead they finish with a winning time that doesn't even rate in the college system.

Only one runner had vast RECENT experience running slow, tactical races....or, at least, races that finished much faster/negative splits. Pac 10, Regionals, NCAA.

Need I say anymore?

Please answer one question - why has Centro never run an 800, either high school or college??????

nickHpaulson wrote:

If the question is which race was more exciting for fans, it was the women's. Everyone at Hayward was talking about whether CWT could hold on, was shocked at how far ahead she was, etc. But obviously she didn't hold on, so it was a bad choice, unless she knew she couldn't win a kicker's race.

For the men, everyone around me was stunned at how slow it was, with plenty of jokes about how they were trailing the women. It worked for the top 3, but I'm sure Wheating, Leer and Torrence which the race had been a little different.

Then the people watching at hayward field don't know how to appreciate fine championship racing.

The men's 1500 final was extremely exciting for me. I love watching tactical races, all of the tension building, seeing their last lap sprints, etc.

To all of the pre worshippers, just go away. The WC's and Oly's are ALWAYS SLOW. Statistically, that's the best way to win.

the 1500 m did not even qualify for the world championship standards. I am afraid centro would have to run a race for him to achieve at least 3.37 for Iaaf standard..

i liken this to tuning in to watch the Boston marathon men's winner take it in 2:18. oh the last mile and 100 meters will be amazing with 20 guys sprinting for the line? but then it wouldn't be a marathon.

this was a tactical 1500 that took the men through 800 on 4:23 mile pace 4:23! this means they covered the last 700 in 1:41, which is 1:55 800 pace. So compare that to Rupp's 1:52 off 10k?

pathetic. weak. so many heads are filled with regret right now.

It was indeed pathetic and disgraceful.

Want to watch a 400 meter race? A real one?

Then watch the 400 meters.

Plenty of tension while they're in the blocks.

Want to watch a real 1500?

Well there are plenty on utoob.

Way to go Will Leer! He is a stud, I hope he's not too down on himself. Perfect set up for him to represent US next year!

pathetic chet, just pathetic wrote:

i liken this to tuning in to watch the Boston marathon men's winner take it in 2:18. oh the last mile and 100 meters will be amazing with 20 guys sprinting for the line? but then it wouldn't be a marathon.

this was a tactical 1500 that took the men through 800 on 4:23 mile pace 4:23! this means they covered the last 700 in 1:41, which is 1:55 800 pace. So compare that to Rupp's 1:52 off 10k?

pathetic. weak. so many heads are filled with regret right now.

Or you could say they went through the first 800 in 1:57 which is 4:29 mile pace, then covered the last 800 in 1:50. I think that makes their race sound a lot better. 1:50 is pretty damn hard. I guess this answers Ventolin about him saying Lagat couldn't break 1:51. Even if it was with a running start.

msr wrote:

It was indeed pathetic and disgraceful.

Want to watch a 400 meter race? A real one?

Then watch the 400 meters.

Plenty of tension while they're in the blocks.

Want to watch a real 1500?

Well there are plenty on utoob.

So maybe Jeremy Wariner should have signed up for the 1500?

Who the f*** are you? wrote:

not winning wrote:

..... in 3:47, a slow college time, yes he won.

Are you referring to the potential argument that a race like that (3:47), is not likely to occur in Daegu?

I am only upset by the posters who believe that this was a "pathetic" 1500.

But, this was a race. And I enjoyed it thoroughly!

Wow, you really think the WC final will be anywhere near 3:47? Maybe if they are running the mile but for 1500m this is what is exactly wrong with American distance running. What good did these two rounds do any of these guys, besides Lagat? You think Webb had a big ego wait till you try and fit Centro's bulb through the door at Daegu. This kid won't make it out of the first round.

Like I said before, doesn't anyone really miss the days of Webb, when they ran 13 seconds faster for the US championship. Webb has got to be the most under appreciated American miler of the last 50 years.

And for Wheating? What happened to Mr. "3:30 is no problem?"

Young guy is talented so where's all the bashing of him like there was of Webb every damn time he raced?

:|} wrote:

pathetic chet, just pathetic wrote:

i liken this to tuning in to watch the Boston marathon men's winner take it in 2:18. oh the last mile and 100 meters will be amazing with 20 guys sprinting for the line? but then it wouldn't be a marathon.

this was a tactical 1500 that took the men through 800 on 4:23 mile pace 4:23! this means they covered the last 700 in 1:41, which is 1:55 800 pace. So compare that to Rupp's 1:52 off 10k?

pathetic. weak. so many heads are filled with regret right now.

Or you could say they went through the first 800 in 1:57 which is 4:29 mile pace, then covered the last 800 in 1:50. I think that makes their race sound a lot better. 1:50 is pretty damn hard. I guess this answers Ventolin about him saying Lagat couldn't break 1:51. Even if it was with a running start.

nope. nothing you wrote made sense. drivvle, useless drivvle. If you are in shape and waiting/preping for this race then you should go for your best.

Pre was turning over in his grave

this race was pathetic - why is anyone afraid to just

take the damn think out in 55-56 and run???

Maybe you should read the rest of my posts before you immaturely respond.