Marathon Training Thread - Week Ending 6/5

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12 years ago 06/09/2011 1:49am EDT

re: midDnewb

Hi guys,

We did a session of k reps on Tuesday, 3 of them fast with fairly short recoveries, as a couple of us are trying to lower our 3k PBs (aiming for as close to 9:00 as possible) this summer. Our club has a series of opeen track meetings but the 3k at the next one is after 9pm and none of us think we will run at our best that late in the evening. The other chances to race are in the track league but often the races are tactical or just slow and hard to get a decent time in.

Seeing as neither of us care about getting an 'official' time we're going to do a time trial on the 21st. It'll be me and another guy, with someone to pace us either to 1500 in 4:30 or just for the middle k. We'll try and get others involved.

What do you think about this approach?

12 years ago 06/09/2011 7:32am EDT

re: brumrunner

Brumrunner:

I don't see why a race after 9pm would be a bad thing. Didn't they run the Pre distance night because late night is good for running(less wind, cooler)? I would think that as long as you took it easy most of the day, you'd be fine. Perhaps you could also adjust your last run time to get on the schedule. It's a terrible comparison, but I remember when I ran at the Milrose Games in college that the pros running the late races, after 9:30pm Friday, would be out doing a run at 7am that day to keep the gap between the last run and race the same.

That being said, the time trial might work too. I could never get the adrenaline flowing enough to run a PR in a time trial, but it does have the advantage of complete control. You don't have to deal with any other competitors getting in the way or any delays in the start time. If it were me, I'd like the pacers for the last 1500m to pull me through the tough part.

Good luck either way! Just for comparison, I ran my 3K PR (8:51) one month after a 2:41 marathon.

12 years ago 06/09/2011 11:29am EDT

re: BostonBound

BostonBound

Thanks for your thoughts. I had thought the same thing; that the actual conditions are better at that time of evening (and it will still be daylight at this time of year) but my main concern is that I might not be in the best state physically. I start pretty early in the morning for work so my body is putting itself to sleep at around 9pm! Each to their own...

We've done time trials before actually, unpaced, and I've generally found that I can push myself as hard ad I could in a race. A few months ago I ran 33:06 solo for 10k on the track, and my PB in a race is 33:40! It's strange, but occasionally I can just get completely in the zone without other competitors around.

I'm going to do some races too, of course!

12 years ago 06/09/2011 4:59pm EDT

re: marmite

Goal Race: Chicago

Goal Time: 2:35

This is my first post here, so I should explain my situation. First year post-collegiate (23 yrs old), ran only sporadically with my fiance for first 9 months after being done with track last year. Decided to start training in February. Trained for 14 weeks up to 70 miles/wk then won the Quincy, IL Half Marathon in 1:14:36. It was my first race over 10k. I was a 4:02 (1500), 8:49 (3k), and 26:10 (8k) runner in college.

Just finished two weeks of downtime after the half and a small 6 mile race the week after. I will post my first week on the thread for next week.

Excited to start posting here because of my lack of training partners! Hope everyone has a good week!

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