DIII Cross Country: 2011

Nice passive aggressive answer. Give him credit and then rip him down. At least you are brave enough to rip someone on an anonymous forum. If you are truly glad his celebration was restrained good for you. If so then the rest of your commentary is just another cheap pot shot.

Fast Action Jackson wrote:

except the whole getting a worth wild education thing... NAIA probably has the worst schools in the country... Sorry hellz....

The above is my favorite post in recent weeks. It is this type of post that makes viewing Letsrun worthwhile.

I still am at a loss as to who is Lets.

does anyone have photos or video from the race? would love to get a link

Same here. I'd love to be able to watch the race!

Anybody have a link?

Hey, The video for d3 nationals is up on runners space. It is actually pretty good for what it shows....

Men:

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=55670-Mens-8k-NCAA-D-III-National-Championships-2011

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=55613-Mens-8k-Finish-NCAA-D-III-National-Championships-2011

Women:

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=55668-Womens-6k-NCAA-D-III-National-Championships-2011

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=55607-Womens-6k-Finish-NCAA-D-III-National-Championships-2011

wherrrreeeee nationals being held next year?

Pretty sure it's in Terre Haute where DI Nationals is, hosted by Rose Hulman...

What is Sathre's secret to training?

He takes out every run in 4:32, no matter what. Guy's been training for this day his whole career.

Why does the South/Southeast Region do so poorly relative to the other regions?

Any ideas on why the South/Southeast does so poorly?

Could the Williams women actually have gone 1-2-3 if Goessels and Dear didn't quit on them? Pretty scary thought that the two best runners at Williams were back home healthy and they still had the individual national champ. Very impressive performance from Williams getting third and winning the individual crown without their top two.

Did they quit the team or are they injured? I know Dear dropped out at NCAA track last spring due to an injury..?

5050 wrote:

Any ideas on why the South/Southeast does so poorly?

Mainly low expectations. Teams train to squeak out a spot to get to nationals, but don't do the work to compete once they get there. That, combined with somewhat less talented teams (overall) than other regions leads to crappy performances.

I ran for one of the South schools that never, ever got a team spot (men anyway), and I can tell you, our training was completely inadequate. We trained like we were super talented studs, who could get away with doing 65-75 miles a week with a few workouts, and then we were shocked when we got blown away. After having been out of college for a few years, and trained much harder, I can see now that I would've been at least pretty successful if my coach had pushed me a little more, and if I'd pushed myself a little more. It's the same with many of the teams now, with a few exceptions. For the larger, well known schools in the South though, it's mainly laziness and bad coaching.

And that is not intended to single out the schools that actually qualified, because there are a whole bunch of much worse teams that were left sitting at home.

There are also far fewer schools. The South/Southeast and West, despite being the geographically largest divisions, have the fewest teams.

There are a lot more people at small schools scattered all over the place on the northern east coast and midwest. As you go westward, or to the south, students are generally concentrated at much bigger schools, hence the much greater competition at the DI level.

You would think expectations would be pretty high in larger population centers like Memphis & Atlanta, where Rhodes & Emory are located. Emory also competes against the folks up north in the UAA. So is it coaching, low expectations,a lack of talent, or lack of numbers in these Southern D3 programs? Or all of the above? And I noticed they gave an at large bid to one of the ladies teams.

Perfectly healthy, chose not to run.

hjghj wrote:

Did they quit the team or are they injured? I know Dear dropped out at NCAA track last spring due to an injury..?